So a lot of times this point pops up. That fathers/mothers don’t allow girls to dress ‘liberally’ or ‘relaxed’ or showing etc even inside the house. Despite having only mahrams in the house. Also, teh arab example is given that they roam around their house nangay patangay.
Now, technically in islam, i think its not an issue how you dress in front of mahrams (right?)
So what determines the type of dressing?
Since religion allows it, are those people more afraid of incestuous thoughts that they do this? Perverts, as they say, coz they would develop urges by seeing their own family members.
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Hmm. I dress modestly in front of mahrams. Not because they are incestuous or whatever - but it is due to habit. My sister even wears shorts in front my dad at times. but of course never when going outside. I had a friend who never showed her legs to her and would change into her school uniform upon reaching her school. Just because the uniform had a short skirt.
SO well… yup no issue how u dress in from of mahrams i think. My rule- dress modestly in front of whoever.
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Well technically a woman must upkeep the Hayaa element infront of everyone, mehram or non mehram. Even a woman taking her clothes off in the presence of another woman is a big no no ! The same goes for men.
Aside from that, I guess both men and women dress up decently infront of even mehrams purely out of respect for each other..
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Isn’t the dress code ‘relaxed’ for mahrams?
That was the assumption on which the thread was based. As i said in OP, people to refer to Arabs and how their women don’t cover at home and the related assumption that its islamically legit to do that.
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We must nip that assumption. Just coz contemporary arabs do it, does not mean it is shariah sanctioned. Assad is slaughtering innocent ppl, doesnt take a mufti to know that it is haram.
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There are only handful of posters here who cannot stop bragging about handful of Arabs they know, and generalize their lifestyles to over 320+ million Arabs and present it as God given guide for rest of the Muslims. Arabs are very diverse people and everything they do does not equal Islam. It’s about time ‘Desis’ Muslims get rid their inferior complex.
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As far as I know, it is required that you still practice hayaa and modesty in front of mehrams. Pardha for body is still required, pardah for head or face is not.
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Jolie is spot on in the above post.
Does a daughter feel comfortable if her dad or brother is walking around in shorts ? I am sure , not. Its the same vice verse too. As per Islamic Shariah, I believe , the difference of dress code between mehram and non mehram is the actual formal parda , the scarf and covering the body.
For example in a desi dress , salwar suit, a strict parda observing girl may relax on the head covering bit and may not keep her dupatta on at all times , in the presence of the mehrams. But mostly girls remain conscious that their dress doesnt show any form of nudity etc.. On the contrary , in the presence of non mehrams they will cover head and run for their dupatta or shawl to cover themselves.
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Both male and female members should dress modestly in front of mehrams. I think there is no hard and fast rules for that and it depends on urf of that area (up to certain extent) so it may be different/lenient for some one living in west then some one living in KPK.
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Dress code is relaxed in front of mahrams but relaxed is not defined as roaming around nude or half nude in front of mehrams.
by relaxed it means that you can keep your head, face, neck,hands,feet,knees,ankles uncover which in case of non-mehrams you are required to cover.
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Wow in every post about arabs you reply bitterly. I think you have some bad history with arabs thats clouding your judgment you shouldn’t feel so offended by what OP said.
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I think it is ok to dress around the male members of your family as the male. Your dad saw you naked when you were born and probably changed your diapers and your brothers also probably saw you naked when young. I don’t mean go naked but equally as revealing as for you mother and sister. As far as i know even super strict muslims who are arabs allow this.
I think its a cultural thing that is preventing this. Because its not like incest is going to happen and their your family! Modesty is well known just for men who could have sexual relations with you. I think because in a majority of cultures in the east view males as dominant and so respect them by dressing modestly. Just like how i would use swear word when joking with male siblings but avoid it in the presence of my parents/elders.
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This is what it says in the quran ..and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons, or their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sister’s sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islâm), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex"
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Lady, do you realize how hypocritical that is? Putting aside personal experiences or of those I know, would you deny that Arabs think of desis as an inferior, servile race? Unfortunately for the underprivileged, feeding a family takes precedence over self-respect, livelihood over dignity, understandable. But what I find surprising are the ones who are still in denial, the ones who are in a one-sided love affair with the Arabs, the ones who blur the line between Islam and Arabic culture.
