Dr. Zakir Naik: Lectures on various topics

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yeah well, an angel reciting gods word does sound pretty much like mythology to me. just to give you an example.

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actually you are a great scholar of time… You know Quran better than Imam Razi:rehm: that you can read the verses of Quran and then announce that your understanding is far better than stupid mullahs of the early centuries for they looked the verses in context of the ahaadeeth and the life of Prophet:saw:

you do not need all those context.. you only need a brain to interpret… Bows Down

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So much work so little time :frowning:

ok first
PD - I can’t take your words on this issue to be authentic, you speak about every religion with same fervour… not a good idea to trust jack of all trades :stuck_out_tongue:

Incidently I belong to the same land and luckily I know one or two things about history too …

Hinduism is evolving

good for india :k:

Now you are mixing up two different but equally horriffic custums in hindus, good thing both are now abandoned

**Sati **is the when a wife was asked to burn alive with dead husband and awarded ticket to swarg with eternal life with husband…

the other custom ( i dont know the name) When the battles used to take place in india and one party thought that they have lost the battle … then they used to flame huge fires and then throw the females of noble family ( mostly Brehmans) into the fire and burned them alive. That included all the girls and women. So that they are not captured by the other party. That custom was present in india long before the muslim came to india. And as part of history, hindus did burned their women in some when muslims captured those areas.

Well it is ironic that you blame this on Muslim rulers, who were mostly respected by indians for their toleracne and the respect given to people of lower castes …
May be they are hated by Barhamans… because Muslim Shattared their self-claimed right of tyranical rule over all the other caste and stoped them from inhumane treatment of other fellow human being.

Chan ji, Centuries ago my ancestors used to burn their dead ones, but once they embraced a modern and eco-friendly religion, they started burying them :slight_smile:

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codey, you have been sipping the pakistani version of muslim entry into india. mahmud ghazni didnt come to india yearly to help the poor caste folks. he came for loot, slaves and women. read up on why the hindu kush region is named so.

most muslim rulers of north india werent particularly islamic, or interested in dawaah. that was done by sufi saints and then later on islamic reformers. many of the muslim rulers, especially the afghans, did resort to pillaging, and sati and johar in north western india among rajputs was a direct consequence of this. so was the exodus of the gypsies into europe, saurashtrians into south india, konkanis into konkan... and no, i'm no brahmin.

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Yyes you are right, Islam spread in india due to efforts and preachings of these sufi saints. No doubt. But still apart from one or two exceptions, hindus lived happily under the Rule of Moughal emperors and never Staged any Ghadar

but they were outraged by british rule, and freedom strugle started in no time !

So comparitively, all in all, Muslims were the best and most successful rulers of india in recent time, Approval by hindus themselves is the biggest testimony. And if you dont have any bias against muslims, you will have to admit this historical fact.

Linking Sati and other evil and sick customs to muslims is quite ridiculous to say the least. It was part of Hindu religion and society from ancient time.

See

See the time line

http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/women/sati/timeline.htm

***Scholars differ on the origins of the Sati practice. Some have dated the origins to the period of the Vedas (apprx. 5500 years ago), and a few others have attributed the system to the origins of the caste system (apprx. 1st century A.D.). ***

Quite pathetic that you try to link this to muslims. contrary to that Muslims brought these very alein (and very modern) ideas of equality of human being, remariage of widows and justice which were later adopted by them.

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What Dr. Zakir Naik forgot to talk about?

He got no clue about root, Vedas and philosophy. He never argued about Vedas or talked about great reforms done by great gurus.
Other parts of the world Hindus use electrical burner for crimination.
Mangalsutra is a representation and ritual help to create husband and wife relation stronger. All his efforts will go down the drain if he doesn’t talk about Vedas (root).Hinduism is a change you adopt to achieve final journey for ever lasting happiness.

He talked about customs and basic social norms (This will help Hindus to update their version).Hinduism is evolving religion it changes with time and place.

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mostly pracctised by rajputs it is uinknown in many parts of india

In medival periods, due to widespread Islamic invasions and rampage that follows, Sati must have served as the best way to protect the widowed women from the invading armies. This practice when performed in large numbers by women of royal families was called Jauhar.

The practice has generally been restricted to certain castes and communities. Some accounts indicate that it may have been introduced from central Asia by Scythians, from whom Rajputs of Rajasthan are believed to be descended. Sati is known to have been practised in many different regions of India from medieval times, though the prevalence varied. Many rulers made efforts to ban or limit it, including the Mughal emperors. The practice was moderately common in Rajasthan and in parts of the Gangetic plain till the early 19th century, and a few hundred deaths were recorded each year then. At this time it was rather uncommon or even unknown in other parts of India
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati

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Thanks

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HInduism is more than religion. it is a way of life. :jazakshiva:

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Is there a concept of eternity in Hinduism or People are just gone forever after the 7th reincarnation?

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There is one and all, you are him and he is you…jazakkrishna :flower1:

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Seems like only HIM will stay and everyone will disappear?

Is there a simple and humanly understandable version of this philosophy?

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It is not a philosophy like islam, it is profundity. Do show more respect. :rolleyes:

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hahaha

so after the seventh janam, what remains is only a God?

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It begins with me and ends with me..and I am there throughout to begin anew. jazakbrahma :flower1:

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lolz... please, explain in simple english. A religion is supposed to be understandable to any person not only for philosophers.

me him him me .... what?

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God is within you and all around you…you are God. :jazakvishnu: :flower1:

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^^
Religion is a candle inside a multicolored lantern. Everyone looks through a particular color, but the candle is always there.

Mohammed Neguib

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This is for ChannMahi and Queer
49:11 O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): Nor let some women laugh at others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former): Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.

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....wow i didnt realise the thread was this old...sorry guys.