Dr Afia Prisoner 650

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Pakistan demands access to al Qaeda suspect in U.S. | Reuters

Pakistan demands access to al Qaeda suspect in U.S.

By Aftab Borka

KARACHI, Aug 5 (Reuters) - Pakistan has demanded consular access to a Pakistani woman with suspected links to al Qaeda who is due to be arraigned in New York on Tuesday on charges of attempting to murder U.S. troops and FBI agents in Afghanistan.

The New York Times newspaper said Aafia Siddiqui, a U.S.-trained neuroscientist, has links to at least two of 14 suspected high-level al Qaeda members held at Guantanamo Bay.

The story of her arrest is one of the strangest to emerge since the Sept. 11, 2001 al Qaeda attacks on the United States.

Siddiqui was brought to the United States on Monday and is due to be formally accused before a New York court of trying to kill U.S. soldiers and FBI agents at an Afghan police station last month, the U.S. Department of Justice said.

Pakistan’s ambassador to Washington made the request for consular access on Monday, Pakistan’s state-run news agency said.

Afghan police arrested Siddiqui after becoming suspicious of her behaviour outside the provincial governor’s compound in the city of Ghazni on July 17, the U.S. Department of Justice said.

Police found documents describing bomb-making and excerpts from the book, Anarchist’s Arsenal, as well as papers describing U.S. landmarks and substances sealed in bottles and jars.

The next day, U.S. soldiers and two FBI agents arrived at the Afghan police station where Siddiqui was being held.

“The personnel entered a second floor meeting room, unaware that Siddiqui was being held there, unsecured, behind a curtain,” the department said on its Web site. A U.S. warrant officer placed his rifle on the ground, next to the curtain.

“Shortly after the meeting began, the captain heard a woman yell from the curtain and, when he turned, saw Siddiqui holding the warrant officer’s rifle and pointing it directly at the captain,” the Justice Department statement said.

“The interpreter seated closest to Siddiqui lunged at her and pushed the rifle away as Siddiqui pulled the trigger. Siddiqui fired at least two shots but no one was hit. The warrant officer returned fire with a 9 mm service pistol and fired approximately two rounds at Siddiqui’s torso, hitting her at least once.”

Despite being shot, Siddiqui continued to struggle and struck and kicked the officer while shouting in English that she wanted to kill all Americans and then passed out, the statement said.

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“Dr. Aafia’s case is a reminder of the grave injustice done to God knows how many Pakistanis in U.S. detention facilities in Bagram in Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere, who have been listed as missing” an HRCP statement said. (Additional reporting by Imtiaz Shah in Karachi and Sher Ahmad in Ghazni; Writing by Jon Hemming; Editing by Paul Tait)


what lies! She was picked up by agencies and now she is about to be indicted for attempting to kill US soldiers, she is being reported to be “roaming” in Afghanistan.

This is what brains can come up to keep someone in jails as long as they want it, cook the stories, indict them!

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This is a really strange story!

A terrorist who has been successfully hiding for the last 5 years suddenly shows up in front of the governor's residence, carrying incrimanating papers in her handbag!

Agreed... this is where media can play a role... dig the facts, present to the world and put the liars to shame.

and that after media reports of her missing for so long

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Its been reported that she is being produced in a court in newyork tomorrow, it seems after media reports some Paki officials did talk to USA.

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Extremely heart breaking, her older sister was having press confrence with senator Iqbal haider this morning and I had tears in my eyes when she was telling the whole thing--How can someone sell the daughters of a country for some dollars, I hope and pray everyone who have been involved in this get the same treatment that she is been getting for last 5 years

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^ Yes for all the daughters from around the world. May the daughters / sisters of those behind such crimes and cruelty suffer the same and worse. Only then they'll start respecting others daughters too.

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^ Kuch khuda ka khauf karo... what kinda insane prayers are you posting. How can you possibly justify punishing the family members of a person to revenge a bad deed. This sounds exactly like the time of jahaliya, and there is specific prohibition for this in the Quran.

I mean, its clear all are upset about this, but lets not completely loose our sense of right and wrong.

Thank you for translating my thoughts into words :k:

The following news contains her photograph after she was brought to USA. It is evident from her appearance that she cannot attack anyone is such a painful condition. May Allah punish the people who are responsible for bringing her to this condition. May Allah (s.w.t) bless her and make her this life and hereafter easier.

BBC NEWS | Americas | Mystery of Siddiqui disappearance

Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

But what kind of prayer is one supposed to make for those who enjoy cruelty on others? Yes, I have seen such sadists in life. I know our prophet never made bad prayers even for the most cruel enemies but what kind of prayers, we, as muslims, as normal humans instructed to make (by Quran)?

Can you please also provide the reference from Quran about which you mentioned in your post?

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You can curse all you want those who committed such cruelty. Ask for punishment for those. Don't involve their family members who have no part in this whole episode.

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Well, whatever happened to her one thing is clear. Pakistani govt is equally responsible if not more for her plight. The woman was arrested from Karachi while on her way to the airport & in all probability she was arrested by our own terror agencies & handed over to the Americans along with her kids. I wonder how many millions of $$$ did the dictator & other corrupt generals got from the US for her?

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^ Exactly, since this is PA, our beef mainly involves the Pakistani Govt headed by Musharraf who sold their people for some moolah. And where are the people who were arrogantly (and ignorantly) saying how no Pakistani citizens were ever shipped over.

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The story (and pictures) of a Pakistani woman with a kid getting arrested near Afghan governor’s house had come out in the news a couple of months ago, before Yvonne Riddley press conference and the following press attention on Dr. Afia.

There is also the evidence that she did come back to US and try to facilitate an AlQaeda plot by making travel arrangements and renting a P.O. Box for an Al Qaeda terrorist. She was apparently named by KSM himslef as an AlQaeda agent.

Now, it has also come out that she had actually married KSM’s nephew.
"Aafia Siddiqui is said to have married Ali Abd’al Aziz Ali, one of his nephews following her divorce. Although her family denies this, the BBC has been able to confirm it from security sources and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s family. "

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Mystery of Siddiqui disappearance

It is quite possible that she may have been in hiding with the rest of AlQaeda all these years. Afterall she had been exposed as an AlQaeda agent and a KSM family member. Given that her three young children also disappeared with her, it seems plausible that she went into hiding herself. Security agencies are not equipped to handle toddlers and dont arrest toddlers.

So she was picked up by agencies in Pakistan and then according to your theory she somehow managed to escape (with nothing in news about that) and was in hiding since then, is this what you are saying?

I was actually thinking that it is possible that she was never arrested in the first place. She was part of KSM's family after marrying his nephew and her role as an AlQaeda agent was exposed. It makes sense for her to not contact her family while she was in hiding. OTOH, it is possible that she may have managed to escaped after getting arrested but I have not read anyhting to imply that.

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3 different stories about her:

Story 1: From her family & supporters

Dr Afia was abducted by Pakistani security forces and either held or handed over to the USA 5 years ago. The July 17th arrest was a farce.

Story 2: From the USA
She was arrested by Afghan police, who handed her over to the USA. During the handover, she grabbed an American’s gun and tried to shoot him, and was shot

Story 3: From Afghan police
Nation & World | U.S. case against Pakistani doubted overseas | Seattle Times Newspaper
Afghan police arrested her on July 17th. The Afghan police refused to hand her over to US soldiers, who then turned their guns on the police and forced them to give her up. During this confrontation, she walked towards the US soldiers to complain that the Afghans had mistreated her, at which point the Americans thought she was going to attack them and shot her.

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What do the Afghans have to gain from their version of the story, which shows US troops threatening their own alleged allies and then shooting an unarmed woman?

Here is the July 19 press report about her arrest in Afghanistan
Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

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US troops wound ‘Pakistani suicide bomber’ caught in Afghanistan
KABUL/GHAZNI: US soldiers shot and wounded a suspected female bomber as they took over custody of her from Afghan police, Ghazni police chief alleged on Friday.

Police had arrested the woman and a 13-year-old child they alleged were suicide bombers planning to kill a provincial governor in central Afghanistan, officials said on Friday.

The police chief initially said the police argued with the Americans over giving up custody. But he later said there was no argument and that the woman lunged at one of the US soldiers, sparking the gunshot.

US military officials had no immediate comment.

The pair were arrested late on Thursday as they were fixing explosives to themselves behind the governor’s residence in Ghazni, provincial government spokesman Ismail Jahangir told AFP.

Jahangir said the woman and the child could not speak either of Afghanistan’s main languages, Dari and Pashtu, but spoke Urdu and Arabic. The pair were presented to the media several hours after their arrest."

There are many other links of her arrest in July. There were pictures too from the july 18/19 reports. Ghazni, Afghanistan News for July 2008 - Topix

All this press hoopla about prisoner 650 seem to have started soon after. There is evidence she was arrested mid July and have not been admitted to be in custody just last week.