Dr Afia Prisoner 650

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Unfortunately, the government of Pakistan will never do anything for her, their admission of providing her is an open invitation to anarchy in the country. It simply will not backtrack on what has been done. Her freedom can only be secured by other NGO's. Her freedom could have heads roll in Pakistan from the perspective on the Pakistani government.

I saw someone wish that the females of the perpetrators should suffer the same fate, I would like to say, I hope such never happens. We are here feeling sorry for her but then how could we feel satisfied by seeing another female go through the same harrowing experience to avenge our hatred for the original perpetrator of this act. The person(s) who are responsibloe should suffer their own harrowing experience for justice to be served.

None of the posts really tell who Dr. Aafia is?

Here is one version mainly written from the POV of her family’s attorney.

Who’s Afraid of Aafia Siddiqui? - Boston Magazine

This essay brings up many possibilities and few of them are:

  1. She is only guilty of saying something loose against America like many “Arab-wanna-be” Pakistanis and got caught in the web of suspicions.

  2. She was just innocently helping a “Muslim brother” by setting up a mail box in Baltimore. That Muslim brother turned out to be a rotten apple.

  3. She was in fact an active member of AlQaida. So she should be treated as enemy of state, a spy etc.

Unfortunately the truth is somewhere in there, and only people who know about this are either herself or the law enforcement agencies.

Finally U.S concedes Aafia Siddiqui is in custody.

Hope many will remember the story :slight_smile:

FBI concedes Aafia Siddiqui in US custody: lawyer -DAWN - Top Stories; August 04, 2008

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Only God knows her truth but if she is innocent, she is still lucky to be in america to have all the NGOs write about her and get the attention of the authorities so there is still hope for her. I really hope that her kids are safe.

But if she was in saudia or UAE, I can say with 200% surity that no one would ever know whether she was alive or.... because there are absolutely no NGOs allowed to run espeically for the rights of women.... or should I say EXPAT women.

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^ She is reported to be in Bagram, Afghanistan.

You did not understand... What I meant was that if she was a resident of saudia or uae (because she could never be a citizen in those countries, anyway) and taken into custody by the police of those countries FOR ANY VALID OR INVALID accusation, no NGOs would be writing / allowed to write about her (by the govts. of those countries) and got ANY sort of worldwide attention. And nobody would even get to know that ANY prisoner 650 existed.

Because she was an american national and because NGOs are allowed to operate there, that is why this case could be so much publicized. I dont know how it is like Afghanistan but I believe NGOs are allowed to run there by Afghani govt. unlike Saudia / uae. Am I wrong?

That is true, I understand, even in Pakistan many 'picked-up' are not so fortunate to have this much coverage/support. Reportedly there were 400+ people picked up by Pakistani agencies, not all have come back, yet we only hear about some cases like Dr Afia.

I am not sure if she was able to secure the nationality, from the article I read atleast she had Green Card, I agree with you though (re: NGOs).

thanks ehtasab. post deleted being already posted.

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^ sherdil bhai, already posted by gesto post#23 :)

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Whats going on ?

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Dr.Afia shifted to US**

Dr.Afia shifted to US

WASHINGTON: A Pakistani scientist Dr. Afia Siddiqui accused of shooting at U.S. officers while in Afghan custody last month has been extradited to the United States.

According to US media reports, onn July 18 Siddiqui shot at two FBI special agents, a U.S. Army warrant officer, an Army captain and military interpreters who unknowingly entered a room where she was being held unsecured at an Afghan facility.

The warrant officer returned fire with a pistol, shooting Siddiqui at least once. She struggled with the officers before she lost consciousness, and was then given medical attention.

US officials said that Afia Siddiqui was arrested outside the Ghazni governor’s compound where they found bomb-making instructions, excerpts from the “Anarchist’s Arsenal,” papers with descriptions of U.S. landmarks and substances sealed in bottles and glass jars.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/05/world/asia/05detain.html?hp

Pakistani Suspected of Qaeda Ties Is Held

By ERIC SCHMITT
Published: August 5, 2008

WASHINGTON — An American-trained Pakistani neuroscientist with ties to operatives of Al Qaeda has been charged with trying to kill American soldiers and F.B.I. agents in a police station in Afghanistan last month, the Justice Department said Monday night.

The scientist, Aafia Siddiqui, who studied at Brandeis University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, was transferred to New York on Monday, and is to be arraigned Tuesday in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, the department said in a statement.

Ms. Siddiqui, 36, disappeared with her three children while visiting her parents’ home in Karachi, Pakistan, in March 2003, leading human rights groups and her family to believe she had been secretly detained. But in interviews Monday and in a criminal complaint made public later Monday, American officials said they had no knowledge of Ms. Siddiqui’s location for the past five years until July 17, when Ms. Siddiqui and a teenage boy were detained in Ghazni, Afghanistan, after local authorities became suspicious of their loitering outside the provincial governor’s compound.

When they searched Ms. Siddiqui’s handbag, the Afghan police found documents describing the creation of explosives as well as excerpts from the “Anarchist’s Arsenal.” She also carried sealed bottles and glass jars filled with liquids and gels.

The day after she was detained, an American team, including two F.B.I. agents, two American soldiers and interpreters, went to the police station to talk to her. The F.B.I. has wanted her for questioning since May 2004, a Justice Department spokesman said.

The complaint gave the following account of what happened next. Americans entered a room in the police station, unaware that Ms. Siddiqui was being held there, unsecured, behind a curtain. One of the soldiers, a warrant officer, sat down and placed his M-4 rifle on the floor next to the curtain.

Shortly after the meeting began, the other soldier, a captain, heard a woman yelling from the curtain. He turned to see Ms. Siddiqui pointing the warrant officer’s rifle at him.

The interpreter sitting closest to Ms. Siddiqui lunged at her and pushed the rifle away as she pulled the trigger and shouted, “God is Great.” She fired at least two shots, but no one was hit. The warrant officer returned fire with his 9mm pistol, hitting Ms. Siddiqui at least once in the torso.

Ms. Siddiqui struggled when officers tried to subdue her, shouting in English that she wanted to kill Americans. After she was subdued, the complaint said, she “temporarily lost consciousness.”

Ms. Siddiqui was charged Monday with one count of trying to kill American officers and employees and one count of assaulting them, the Justice Department said. If convicted, she faces a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison for each count.

The wild scene in the police station is the latest chapter in one of the strangest episodes in the American campaign against terrorism.

Human rights groups and a lawyer for Ms. Siddiqui, Elaine Whitfield Sharp, said they believed that Ms. Siddiqui had been secretly detained since 2003, much of the time at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan.

“We believe Aafia has been in custody ever since she disappeared,” Ms. Sharp said in an interview on Monday before the complaint was made public, “and we’re not willing to believe that the discovery of Aafia in Afghanistan is coincidence.”

But American military and intelligence officials said Ms. Siddiqui was in Pakistan until she was detained by Afghan authorities.

“She was not in U.S. custody,” said a senior American intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the pending legal action.

United States intelligence agencies have said that Ms. Siddiqui has links to at least 2 of the 14 men suspected of being high-level members of Al Qaeda who were moved to Guantánamo in September 2006.

A government statement said that Ms. Siddiqui helped Majid Khan, a former Baltimore resident and terrorism suspect held in Guantánamo, get documents to re-enter the United States. The statement said Mr. Khan was directed by Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the chief organizer of the Sept. 11 attacks, to conduct research on poisoning reservoirs and blowing up gas stations in the United States. The statement also said he had delivered money for terrorist attacks to another operative and discussed a plan to smuggle explosives.

The government said that Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, known as Ammar al-Baluchi, a nephew of Mr. Mohammed’s, ordered Ms. Siddiqui to help get Mr. Khan’s paperwork. The statement said Mr. Baluchi and Ms. Siddiqui married shortly before his capture.

Mark Mazzetti and Eric Lichtblau contributed reporting from Washington, and William K. Rashbaum
from New York.

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^ At least they admit they have her. This was on the front page of CNN.com this evening. First they kept her for 5 years (God knows what happened to her young sons). After Yvonne Ridley news conference and the uproar, they finally admit they have her, but have also come up with this unbelievable story that she took a rifle from the (well trained) FBI field officers and then fired two shots at them, while in custody. Good God! The least they could have done was to come up with a more plausible story. If what Yvonne had said is true, poor lady has probably already lost her mental balance with all the torture she was subjected to. Shame on all those who let it happen, without any due process.

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^^^ they must have had something on her to hold her for this long. I think we should find out as more and more info comes out & especially now that she will go on trial...

this is barbaric

and theres cover up in full swing

i urge the new government to get her back - at all costs

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^ May be. May be not. US is not exactly known for admitting mistakes. Majority of folks they are holding in Gitmo have pretty much nothing serious against them (except charges that they were fighting US forces in Afghanistan). Once someone is caught, they get into the system; and this system has virtually no way of completely exonerating anyone. Result, ppl are kept in detention way after every possible investigator has determined they have nothing of value, but no one is willing to take the risk of being the one to release them.

Makes you wonder, what kinda asinine US investigator released Baitullah Meshud from Gitmo. Dude got out, and came straight back into Pakistan and has made our lives a misery ever since. Seriously. Govt of Pakistan should file a lawsuit against US government for releasing him.

I agree with yoy Faisal, this is all lies, its known for fact that she was picked up in Pakistan by agencies and Faisal Saleh Hayat acknowledged it.

Its teh courage of one woman Yvone Ridley that her plight has come to be known to the world.

And shame for all of Pakistani authorities for being accompalice to all this.

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Extremely heart wrenching story. May Allah help her. Ameen.

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latest about dr aafia is that she has been shifted to newyork for producing her in court.

I doubt it...every subsequent Pakistani government instead of looking after the interest of Pakistani people is more concerned with pleasing Americans at any cost....and even it is not in American interest if the war on terror is being fought from such a low moral ground..

This kind of unbelievable cover ups....and no regard to human sufferings....and kidnappings of young children....with no report of their whereabouts or fate....Mush/Bush should be held responsible for these illegal brutalities and should be tried for war crimes....

As long as people in west will continue to justify these barbaric actions as war against terror....I am afraid the world will be plunged in to a deeper problem....the only way to eliminate the extremsit jihadi mentality is to fight it through legal means from a moral high ground...

As far as our country is concerned we have a history of opportunist like Musharraf who are ready to sell their soul for petty personal gains....This is the most besharam dictator ever existed in the world....even Hitler had some distorted patriotism....but this man is the worse example of somebody who calls himself a human being...it is absolutely essential for our nation to get rid of this guy....

The above sounds exactly like what I heard from someone who was made to live in some UAE jail without a crime. Except for she was referring to UAE system of jails instead of US's. So it seems like every where it is the same except for US being unfair only to muslims (cz of their hate for them). Whereas in UAE jails, they hate everyone but if you can speak arabic, you do manage to get some attanetion.

Every new Pak govt. gets busy enjoying the few moments of good life while they can until it's taken away from them again. That's why they come into power. Who cares about Pakistan? Those who have no power. They can give nothing but only their lives if to help save Pakistan.