Something very tragic just happened. A young girl of 16 in my neighbourhood died because of a cerebral hemorrage. I went to see her mother today and she was telling me angrily about how the doctors asked if she would donate her daughters organs when it became clear to them that the end was near. She refused because she still had hope that her daughter would survive. I’m not criticising her because I don’t know what’s right and what’s wrong and I don’t know how I would have acted in such a case, but I wondered what other peoples’ point of view is?
Personally, I would like to donate organs. I think it's a good cause and a precious gift that can change someone's whole life.
To me, my body after death is just an unutilized biological mass and if it can be utilized, that's great.
She is a mother
mothers hang onto the very last ray of hope
denying that they are going to or about to lose one of their children
I think her reaction given the situation was called for
When it comes to children mums stop thinking rationally and their 'mamta' overcomes their judgment to make descisions
i guess
I know i get paranoid when a kid tries to push one of my kids in the park
i act like a kid and stare at him with those kha jani wali eyes and if given the chance i might push him back
Roman i agree
although i have it in my will (yeah i got a will) to donate my body to the med school
why just donate organs, maybe donate violins and drums as well..
I don't know about Donating organs Shirin. The way I see it, our bodies and souls belong to Allah SWT and to Him shall we return, IN the form in which we were sent in this world. To me, taking out the organs and just burying the remains is a bit disrespectful.
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Originally posted by Rarediamonds & Gold:
*I don't know about Donating organs Shirin. The way I see it, our bodies and souls belong to Allah SWT and to Him shall we return, IN the form in which we were sent in this world. To me, taking out the organs and just burying the remains is a bit disrespectful. *
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and donating organs after the death is unislamic.
**Sitaaron Pay Jo Daltay Hain Kamand!**
Shaheen=An Eagle or A Flacon!
How come people come up with the idea that Shaheen is a "gal"????
Well as Anchal stated mothers at the event like this can get hysterical and their unconditional love gets the best of them. I personally think if "donating" your vital organs at time of your death, can save a couple of lives, why not?
o©º°¨¨°º©o LiFe Is An IllUsIoN aNd ReAliTy iS a FiGmEnT oF tHe iMaGiNaIiOn o©º°¨¨°º©o
i w'd like 2 no that r we as muslims allowed 2 donate organs?
b/c from what i c i think by denoting we w'd b another being, and even if we r not allowed please let me no y aswell!!!!
khudi ko kar buland itna..ke har takdeer se phele
khuda bande se khud pooche..bata teri raza kia hai!!!
Yes. I did forget to mention that it is unislamic as well.
Thats stupid!!..So you mean donating blood is Unislamic too..!!!..You could say that blood from a living person is islamic…But what about the blood banks??? Anywhere in the world??..are they islamic?..
To me Islam is very very logical…
Donating organs —> Saving Lives ----> THAT GOOD!!!
so in my opinion its as islamic as anything (in MY opinion)
Usually organs can be taken out immidiately after the death…
If I was in her place I would donate the organs…Only after the death (and I dont believe in Brain Death or vegitative states)
Offcourse I am not father yer khi khi
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…and will never be a mother so I cant say…I dont know what I would do then (Allah na karey that I have to)…
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Hey…can anyone tell me what clinton did with the Cigar???
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** and donating organs after the death is unislamic.
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While it is still under individual CHOICE what they do ,can you shed some light on what quran or hadith says about specifically NOT donating.I get the feeling like computers & air force ,Cloning to Vaccinnation was not there in 7th century to have any directives, Of course the ullemas azhar univ. & islam authority may have guidlines but no scholar has come out against science relying on good intention & benefit of mankind as bottom line of all actions.
Plz.Shaheen tu basera kar paththar ki chatanoon par ,could u help make descision for some one who doesn't know which way to go??
Okie you metioned it :)…But still forgot some backing facts and figures (Quran, Hadis, sunnah!!!)
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Hey…can anyone tell me what clinton did with the Cigar???
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i’m kinda confused.. i was under the impression that organ donation was islamically ok.. i remember seeing a program of reflections on islam that said it was ok.
can someone shed some light on this..with backup i mean.. is it ok or not ![]()
Although the religious point of view is useful for us to know, I deliberately didn't put this into the religion section. (Perhaps we can discus these aspects there?) Like many other concepts, as far as I know there are different ideas and religious interpretations - all of them highly qualified - going round, and quoting religion doesn't seem to resolve anything. That's why I asked for your feelings, points of view, etc. Thanks.
I am on donar list in UK. Nothing more to say.
Shirin:
I don't have much knowledge about transplants so this may come off as a dumb question. The organs couldn't have been donated after her death?
One way to look at donation might be that a part of your loved one is still well and alive in another person. Maybe it will serve as a bit of consolation... maybe!
I have always been taught that it is unislamic to donate any part of your body as it must return to Him as it was sent....but then again.....I cannot picture Islam condemning anything that would only serve to help another person.....
Let's investigate this a bit further and if Shaheen and RD&G could provide some background info, I'm sure we'd appreciate it for the sake of discussion.
And yes, let's keep this thread here.
Meaning of "Ina Lillahay wa inna ilayhay ra'aa jay'oon"
"We belong to Allah no doubt. And to Him shall we return."
Soora e Ha'Meem Sajda, aya # 20,21 and 22
**Think about the time when these enemies of Allah will be brought before Him to be taken to Hell. All of them will be gathered there together. When all would have arrived, their ears, eyes and the flesh on their bodies will be witnesses to all their deeds. They will ask their own flesh, "Why have you witnessed against us?" It will reply back, "The same Allah who has given voice to others has given it to us also. He is your creator and to Him shall you return."
When you used to hide behind your bad deeds, you had forgotten that your ears, eyes and the flesh on your body will witness all. In fact, you had thought that Allah was unaware of many of your doings. This false concept you had of your sustainer has been the cause of bringing about your downfall. And thus you went astray.**
Keeping the ayahs in mind, a couple of issues to address here:
1. Since my organs are my witnesses to my deeds, how can they be planted in someone else's body.
Muslim organs and body parts give shahadah to the one ness of Allah. When one donates an organ there is no knowledge of wether it will go to a non muslim or to a non muslim (mushrikeens, kuffar etc.) Therefore, taking something which submits to Allah and puting it in a soul and body which defies, is a very disrespectful concept.
If organs were donated..the concept of burial would disappear.
Scientific knowledge is given to humans by Allah for the benefit of the living. By no means is it suppose to clash with religious beliefs or to defy the orders of Allah.
Also, there is a huge difference between donating blood and donating an organ. Blood forms itself. Whereas, once an organ is gone it's gone for good. And many people fail to understand, that even after death one can feel the pain. They are just not able to express it.
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No matter to whose body your organs are given to
the fact remains that they still will be your organs
They dont become the receiver's organs
A man's actions are a direct result of whats in his mind
not what is in the eye or in the hand or in the kidney
If I remember correctly it says
that on the day of judgement a person's body parts will tell what the person has made them do
So say a twenty year old died his eyes were given to a eighteen year old
then the eyes will give separate gawahis for each separate person
eyes, hands, feet just carry out the function the mind is telling them to do
If what you say would be the case then it would be fair enough to walk into court and say
hey judge look buddy i saw the murder but really had no part in it my hand just went crazy and started killing so the punishment should be given to the hand and not me
Saving a life is far more of a noble deed then any that comes to my mind
I dont think Allah would ever want us to let someone die cause we were being selfish bout our bodyparts which to us arent of any use after our death
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