I love the current COAS, think he's doing a great job. However, giving military sweeping powers such as military courts where trials would happen privately, etc are a double edged sword.
We've already seen what a military dictatorship can do in Syria. Military comes into power, whether overtly or by stealth, then anyone who dares criticize it will disappear.
We saw that with anyone who tried to organize an open panel discussion about what's been going on in Balochistan. That activist and her mother were shot. Doesn't take a genius to figure out who was behind that.
It's dangerous for any society to have it's military = political presence. The two need to be separate arms of governance otherwise abuse CAN happen.
We're just lucky at the moment that the current COAS isn't a butt hole.
I love the current COAS, think he's doing a great job. However, giving military sweeping powers such as military courts where trials would happen privately, etc are a double edged sword.
We've already seen what a military dictatorship can do in Syria. Military comes into power, whether overtly or by stealth, then anyone who dares criticize it will disappear.
We saw that with anyone who tried to organize an open panel discussion about what's been going on in Balochistan. That activist and her mother were shot. Doesn't take a genius to figure out who was behind that.
It's dangerous for any society to have it's military = political presence. The two need to be separate arms of governance otherwise abuse CAN happen.
We're just lucky at the moment that the current COAS isn't a butt hole.
It took full 9 months for Military courts to get Supreme Court's approval. In those 9 months, did your judiciary try to prosecute a single terrorist? No.
You need educate yourself on how military courts actually work, the onus will be on provincial courts to transfer terror related cased to military courts, and then a trial and speedy prosecution will take place. So it's not like military courts can randomly pick any cases or just create cases to trap opponents. The civilian courts oversee the protocol. The Allied forces had to come up with quick and speedy justice system to clean Germany of Nazis ASAP, and they successfully did it.
The presence of 1000s and 1000s of hardened terrorists in your jails is a pretty extreme situation, and some by the book fuddy duddy approach isn't going to provide you with any relief. One bad jail break, and you kiss peace a temporary goodbye.
Even in western countries, secret trials happen everyday. Most high profile terror cases are secret trials anyway. There's probably one happening in Old Bailey now as we speak.
And let's not fall for the blatant propaganda that ISI killed Sabeen. Yes they are so stupid that they would kill her right after seminar on Balochistan so blame instantly falls on them?
Mama Qadeer is alive no matter what he does, but somehow they wanted to take out the unknown Sabeen? Makes no sense whatsoever. There are plenty of anti establishment elements in Pakistan. It is now no secret how Karachi had been home for all sorts of proxy target killings. Look at the number of unregistered foreign NGOs with zero services to their name. What hell are they doing in Pakistan?
Your "world" also saw the writing on the wall that Pakistan is a failed state, it is just about to fall apart and Taliban will get its nukes. "Wut" haiippenned dere? Awww.
*Who needs nasty Indians and Afghans spitting venom on Pakistan army, when we have plenty of snakes in our own sleeves. Precisely the reason why need a strong Army. *
Pakistan Zindabad. Pak Fauj Zindabad. Pkistan Paindabaad.
that is the most dumbest thing PTI could have done as a political party… asking for votes on the name of army chief…sharam say doob kar mar jao, considering Imran khan was against military action against TTP
now i have no idea if PMLN is also publishing similar posters but if they are, then same comment for them as well as they were also against military operation
^ if u track back , you may find these names , raza khan , nasir jat , intizar shah hailing back to PML or PPP. After joining PTI they become cleaner and purer .. Thanks to the chanda for SKH maybe.
Ah so "bloody civilians" are useless and full of social evils. Even PTI turned out to be chandakhors. Hayeee Bloody civilians...
People who cry rivers trying to evoke sympathy for "bloody civilians" are the first one to fully demonise the lesser evil option which is essentially what democracy is all about.
spot on London…people like asma jehangir are horrible who attacks our own army …and so is this guy. janab just listen to him. how pathetic and shameless this guy is who is not only attacking its own army but he is also blatantly admiring indian army…
this guy has no respect for our army at all. he is saying that taliban became bad people only because our army killed them first…
he is also saying that bangaldesis loved us but our army killed so many of them and committed so many atrocities that they became against us
.and then in the end he is saying that our army sucks as compared to indian army as indian army is way more civilzied and will never attack its own people whereas our army is killing its own people…this shameless guy has no idea that indian army is killing its own citizens in kashmir and killed so many sikhs in 1984…toba hai
So this video only proves all the Army hating fools that Imran was never being supported by Army and ISI. Back in 2010, I couldn't decide whether to laugh or cry at these claims.
Good. I hope this video goes viral, and if Imran has so apologise for his remarks, so be it. Bunch of lunatics maligning ISI and Army's name just because he got popular with burger kids and urban class, was getting so pathetic.
Imran during Musharraf went out of his way to demonise Army mainly because he got personal with Musharraf, hence his incredibly long streak of nonacceptance by Pakistanis. If GHQ thinks he's a security risk, let then deal with it. But unlike snakes like Asma Jahngir, he has learned to keep quiet, stop embarrassing the Army and just serve Pakistan.
I really don't know where some idiots got the idea that Imran is being supported by Army given is track record. Ask any military personnel and the first thing he'll say.....Fauj doesn't forget things like these.
But let people of Pakistan decide whether they want to forgive him or not, come elections time.
Her truth is as irrelevant and mundane as her own measly character in today's Pakistan. Pakistan is a changed country today. The sooner PPP style anti Army haters realise the better. This isn't 80s or 90s anymore. Army had realised this much, so it is time for self proclaimed bloody civilians to get the hint as well.
To expose this phony Human (Politicians) Rights activist a little more, Justice S Khawaja has to be the only judge in recent history to pressurise NAB, and seek an action plan from them which produced the infamous list of 150 mega cases. What does this charlatan Human Rights activist do - she boycotts his farewell ceremony and takes digs at him on twitter. This is how much she works for the interest of corrupt, criminal and traitorous politicians. She would stoop so low to even represent MQM because Altaf said something against the Army.
Good for young new generation of Pakistanis to not give a crap about characters like her.
Of course, she not be taking a case from the MQM, and hopefully she realises her mistake.
But if she joined Pti, you would be screaming about how great she is - so spare us your moral outrage.
Mistake? How old is she, 12? She's a been "Human Rights activist" for so long to not make mistakes like this. She might as well go and write a book on how wonderful Nazis were, and they had human rights.
A terrorist party which has killed more people in one go than Taliban, hundreds of target killers from their ranks are crawling out like worms. They confess how many cold blooded sectarian and ethnic killings they had done, they didn't even spare policemen. And this Human Rights charlatan, a traitor goes to court to represent Altaf Hussain, another traitor. Go ahead and represent traitors like yourself in court, but do not call yourself a Human Rights activist after what you have just done, you sick joke.
Good thing she stands exposed and disgraced in today's Pakistan.
I hope snakes like her never join with PTI, but if she does, you would be the first one to badmouth her while I will still hold on to my moral outrage.
Astaghfirullah bro. You didnt include “Shukriya Gen Raheel Shareef”, now be ready to be called traitor, snake of the sleeve, Indian/Yahudi/Amreeki agent etc.
The most funny part is that those who declare Gen Raheel hero for not bringing the coup should ask him wut did the call from centcom say while he was sitting in GHQ and Brig 51, if i remember correctly, was getting ready last year.
And then immediately after that wut happened when he was summoned to Pentagon and got properly trained for more than 2 weeks.
But wait,let one of the generals retire and write his book and it’ll be allllll clear
So Raheel Sharif didn’t call coup because “Centcom” said so…
Where did the Army haters got this information from? Yeah they saw the Centom guy from GS in their dream? Keep waiting and wailing about the coup, I hope it consumes their sorry selves…and I hope it never happens so Army haters can get a massive humble pie on their face, and their boy who cried BS can be buried forever. Gen Raheel must retire a hero, not a dictator. He certainly doesn’t need Army haters’ seal of approval to know whether he’s a hero or not.
Only your Army is bad…everyone else is right! I remember Army hating losers who cried blue murder because Imran met Gen Raheel as if he just crossed the LoC to meet an Indian Chief.
I still need to know “wut” happened to various Centcom reports that Taliban are close to acquiring Pakistani nukes?
