Does God Exist?

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Only if he posts the following in this thread...
" I exist and stop fighting you noobs "

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:hehe: wish that would happen

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I EXIST

STOP FIGHTING YOU NOOBS

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Abay ghar ki murghi daal barabar

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Peace

There was a few talks back when I was in college about how there is 100% proof of the existence of God from an Islamic perspective.

The problem was there in the statement. Islam never emphasises proof, it emphasises evidence, justification and ultimately guidance.

The key to the realisation of God is belief not objective proof, however, objective evidence can be used to rule out things other than God.

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:omg:

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LOL...
We have a GOD and his prophet(Ummm) in Gupshup forums..

I'd rather worship my favorite childhood villain
Hail Mogambo..

whom you would like to meet?
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so next time somebody asks Ummm 'who made you prophet', you can provide a very specific and direct answer.

BTW you can reach me many ways

MOGAMBO KUSH HUA

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sorry for being away for short period of time. so is ummm still around and want to debate or any other atheist for that matter? I'll continue with my reply and post an answer to the 2nd question sometime tonight, insha'Allah.

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Allahkabanda,

The reason I keep asking you to define 'exists' is because I want you to realize that existence is a property of finite, temporal objects. It cannot be a property of God.

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^so you're saying that if God exists that he would have all the weaknesses and limitations of humans so God can't exist in the usual sense?

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Peace krash

The Source of all things
Constant
Unmovable
Unchanging
God IS and NEVER was

There is nothing really to ask ... We already assert that nothing is like God therefore when we say 'exists' it cannot be meant either with the same frame of reference as humans or mean the same type of 'existence' as humans.

However, what is a truism is that humans will view God in accordance with their own references because we have nothing better to view God by. It is therefore appropriate to clarify that God 'exists' and useful for the sake of basing an understanding by it, but to imply such and such from it would not be our task nor ability to do.

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psyah,

That is perfectly fine.
But, then we should not debate 'proof' of 'existence'

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indopak,

That is indeed what I am saying, except, replace humans by 'finite objects'

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Good. So how would you reconcile this with the Islamic objection to people viewing God through idols, through elements of nature or through mental abstractions?

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Peace StirCrasy

Because both the Hindu and Islamic scriptures prevent us from viewing God in that manner. It is simple there are things in scripture that we do understand and things that we should accept because we cannot understand the reality of them but should be satisfied with the analogy being presented. Not in any scripture does is present an idol as an analogy to God. So neither can we! It is simple really.

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Peace krash

We can take the conversation down away from the court room and understand the terms we use though. 'proof' when people use the word really intend it to mean evidence not proof. Also, the same goes with existence when viewing God and ou own selves we do not equate the nature of that existence to be equal, so it should not be used as refutation material either.

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Psyah - it is simple and always has been. Why does everything have to be in a 'scripture'? About 99.99% of things you do, think and talk are not in any scripture yet this obsession!

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Peace StirCrasy

I am not talking about the thing I do. I am talking about a Divine claim. I can say that God spoke to me and told me the Hindus are correct, but I cannot show this claim objectively it is subjective and only special to me. The beauty of scripture is that it is objective or atleast TRUE scripture is objective because in order to demonstrate that it was from God is by putting that scripture to test. The Qur'an passes all tests! It could not have been made by man, not even a army of people could have made the Qur'an so it's source must be Divine and therefore it's claims must also be TRUE. That is the reason why !!!

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^ you are back to using your belief as the proof for your belief.

Going by that logic (of something is so complex and comprehensive, so it must have been by God logic) Shakespeare's works must have been made by God too. Or pick up any of the great Indian or Greek epics!

Anyway. the point is, all religions claim a divine source, including some cults! And many of the classical religions have 'scripts' that by volume, length and complexity would seem difficult for humans to have written....we can speculate about origins of these, take what's good in them.

The question is what makes sense in these speculative faith based things? Works that promote a broad minded thought and evolution or one that restricts and demands stagnation in human civilzation, thought and behavior