Do you think that good looking people get a break?

[Catskin]

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@X2

I used to call him munna biscuit because of his innocent looking face.

hehe…I remember. I even found the pic.

[Hulahoop_Queen]

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@X2

some facts and studies

Do Attractive People Make More Money? - WSJ.com

According to his research, attractive people are likely to earn an average of 3% to 4% more than a person with below-average looks.

Who knew? Good looking people get better jobs | ScienceBlog.com

A new study published in Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences finds that the attractiveness of interviewees can significantly bias outcome in hiring practices, showing a clear distinction between the attractive and average looking interviewees in terms of high and low status job packages offered.

Good looks will get you that job, promotion and raise | Psychology Today

So it seems that physical appearance is a significant factor in the hiring, compensation, promotion, and competence of executives, as much as we would like to think it isn’t.

Yes in some occupations but not in all. I know for a fact that in my career line, you will not be able to even take two steps only with a pretty face..

[TLK]

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@X2

anyways returning to topic and asking a related question, it seems that it is more acceptable to call good looking people as shallow, self centered, dumb, advancing on looks and not effort etc... but you dont see same negativity towards people below avg in terms of looks and calling them jealous, brooding, and with complexes etc. why is that?

I have seen average looking people developing magnetism and charm in their personalities by properly grooming themselves. Case in point is Angelina Jolie. She was a very ordinary looking girl in 80's. Even Oprah became a much attractive person in last few years. At the end, how good you look is based more upon a good self esteem than self centered shallowness.

[TLK]

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@Hulahoop_Queen

Yes in some occupations but not in all. I know for a fact that in my career line, you will not be able to even take two steps only with a pretty face..

correct me if I am wrong, but did you just call yourself ugly? :D

[psyah]

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Here's an honest answer ...

Beauty (apparent) is one of the gifts of advantage that is given to some people. The fact that it is considered a gift is seen firstly by the sign of all prophets - they were beautiful and untarred.

We know that the most beautiful person in intensity was Sayyidina Yusuf (AS) - also we know that the most beautiful person in terms of all encomapssing balanced beauty was Sayyiduna Muhammad (SAW), his being so attractive that it brought coolness to the beholder, whereas the intense beauty of Yusuf (AS) shocked the people into forgetting their whereabouts ... Other forms of beauty are measured against that standard.

I think good looking people do get an advantage in opportunities in this world, just as better sounding people, taller than average people, just because in the absence of knowing what the person is really like - people resort to using their gut feelings - and nine times out of ten their gut is influenced by the impression they get - if beauty is there - it could be a jealous reaction or it could be a reaction of "familiarity" that they feel they have known that person.

I'm not good looking, I'm not tall, so I have to resort to being as kind as possible to get my advantage and when I was younger I needed to do a lot more physical exercise and be the best at sports to get my advantage ... I also feel smelling good helps too.

[partyslims]

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@Shak09

Don’t worry Slims we sill like you

Et tu Shakus?

[redvelvet]

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@X2

My experience has been the exact opposite and I have found better looking people to have less hangups, overall they are friendlier, have better personalities, are more confident about themselves etc which then means that in terms of friendships and relationships they are more easy going. I have seen exceptions as well and I think its those stereotypical exceptions that seem to get depicted more in pop culture a la john hughes movies.

Just like there are good looking ppl with messed up personalities where they are shallow, self centered, etc, there are not attractive people who are neurotic, self loathing and bitter.

The strangest thing is that I have seen a number of good looking girls who had hangups, not because of the usual image of other good looking girls putting them down, but because their less attractive friends nit picking on some feature.

I agree about the exceptions...I've encountered them as well (attractive people who ARE down to earth and easy-going and considerate). And they are out there. But in my experience...there weren't too many of them...and this is among the girls. And yes, I have seen examples of less attractive people who have a chip on their shoulders and will bring others down to raise themselves up (as well as more positive examples). Just sharing my own experience.

[Monk]

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[redvelvet]

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@X2

anyways returning to topic and asking a related question, it seems that it is more acceptable to call good looking people as shallow, self centered, dumb, advancing on looks and not effort etc... but you dont see same negativity towards people below avg in terms of looks and calling them jealous, brooding, and with complexes etc. why is that?

I have come across examples of such people...(example: the overweight person putting a more in-shape person down for being "anorexic" etc)....and those around them who picked up on it had no sympathy and found their jealousy/brooding/complexes very off-putting. IMaybe we tend to think that just because we didn't experience something...it doesn't happen as much....or that if we have experienced something often enough...that it's a common occurence. I've been on the receiving end of it from some of my cousins and while it took me a while to understand that it was a reflection of their own insecurities....I did not find their behavior acceptable.

[X2]

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@Hulahoop_Queen

Yes in some occupations but not in all. I know for a fact that in my career line, you will not be able to even take two steps only with a pretty face..

Just to clarify the studies do not look at a tradeoff between skills/abilities and looks..so its not a question of succeeding 'only' with a pretty face.
the stats indicate that ..all things being equal ..people considered to be more attractive do better than those considered avg or below avg

[X2]

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@TLK

correct me if I am wrong, but did you just call yourself ugly?

or unsuccessful?

[X2]

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@redvelvet

I agree about the exceptions...I've encountered them as well (attractive people who ARE down to earth and easy-going and considerate). And they are out there. But in my experience...there weren't too many of them...and this is among the girls. And yes, I have seen examples of less attractive people who have a chip on their shoulders and will bring others down to raise themselves up (as well as more positive examples). Just sharing my own experience.

Aside from personal experiences if we look at studies conducted on the subject, I can recall the source but there is at least one study out there which basically showed empirically that in general the better looking people tend to have (and/or are seen as having) better and well balanced personalities as well. I will have to dig it up. the synopsis was that fewer hangups and more confidence then channels into a more balanced personality. Although, there are probably other studies that counter that as well but either way those would be broader than our limited set of experiences

[sadzzz]

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i think in some instances... good looking could actually mean, well groomed.. people who take care in their appearance and make an effort , not going over the top as such..

i dunno? Generally, well groomed people, come across more confident.. and people hiring/interviewing do want to employ people who are presentable.. no?

[Hulahoop_Queen]

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@TLK

correct me if I am wrong, but did you just call yourself ugly? :D

I never used the word ugly anywhere in my sentence. I said 'only with a pretty face' which may imply I am both beautiful and smart, no?

[Hulahoop_Queen]

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@X2

Just to clarify the studies do not look at a tradeoff between skills/abilities and looks..so its not a question of succeeding 'only' with a pretty face. the stats indicate that ..all things being equal ..people considered to be more attractive do better than those considered avg or below avg

It's not necessary that if a research study states a particular finding, it's a fact. You are presenting research findings, I am presenting you my experience (and so are some of the other posters). I am not sure if I have noticed at my workplace that superficial beauty makes any difference at all, that's all i am trying to say.

[X2]

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@Hulahoop_Queen

It's not necessary that if a research study states a particular finding, it's a fact. You are presenting research findings, I am presenting you my experience (and so are some of the other posters). I am not sure if I have noticed at my workplace that superficial beauty makes any difference at all, that's all i am trying to say.

I am not doubting your experience, your experience is your experience, nothing can change that.

On this particular topic, for my own understanding of the impact, I choose to give more credence to not just one, but multiple major studies conducted by fairly esteemed institutions, regardless of anyone's personal observations and experiences.

[DaffyDuck]

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Agree - they do get an advantage.

Recently i encountered something similar. Near my house was a huge exhibition of Indian jewelery. Since it was near my house & really not a place to go dressed up, i was wearing very simple clothes & spectacles and no makeup. Basically, a very ordinary at-home sort of look.

Anyway, a stall at the place had beautiful jewelery but was a total fish market. Finally i got to the first row and waited there for 20 minutes for the sales lady to tell me the price. I asked her some 30 times and she ignored & ignored & ignored. Meanwhile a girl (very pretty,Pakistani but Lebanese looking with fully blow dried hair and full makeup) called out “auntie, please would you tell me the price of those earrings?” – The same earrings i was asking about since 20 minutes. She was in the last row but aunty hurriedly told her the price and sold the earrings from that last row. OMG was i pissed or what!!! Just because she was good looking, aunty thought she would have bought the earrings. I could easily have made pieces of the hprrible woman, i was THAT pissed. I had been standing there for a long time and this woman who wasn’t even in line got away with the stuff, what horrible horrible customer service.

[Naabigh]

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Achi suRat bi kia buri shay hai
jis ne dali buri nazar daali

:hinna:

[Sara516]

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@stoppit

Uh yes.

I have this colleague. We've had new people join the group recently and I start telling them the story of how she joined us and then I'm like oh sh.... better not, because it doesn't reflect well on her. Basically, there was a conference and she was one of the few female presenters. No one could understand her presentation with her russian accent and it wasn't our research area either, but she was hot and well turned out. One of the guys in our group would never turn up an opportunity to chat up a pretty lady so he went up to her afterwards and laid on the charm. She managed to wrangle an internship with our group through him, working with him and then he suggested her for a position later.

I bet he did.

[Krypton]

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@redvelvet

Do you guys think upbringing plays a role? I know some girls who are attractive, but that wasn’t the focus when they were growing up. Their parents didn’t emphasize it much…or they weren’t the type to either compliment their kids much in general or didn’t compliment them on their looks much. So, while they’re good looking…they’re not “too” aware of it or it didn’t get to their heads. I’ve seen examples of people who turned out cocky because of receiving excessive praise from parents about their looks. One of my former colleages regrets doing that to her son because she sees how it’s affected him. My mom wasn’t much into complimenting us when I was growing up…because it wasn’t her “style” and she thought it would do more harm…although now she’s more generous about it, lol.

:k:

it really just varies and depends. i thin most professional people who put in a little effort tend to look quite good nowadays. and everyone defines beauty differently.