If we say that we accept and respect hindus, that does not mean that we feel the same about hinduism too. Yes we respect hinduism but do not accept it. I am not sure why we should apologize for that when its not even a negative trait. You are just presenting it as negative trait.
My parents are my parents and for me, they are the only real parents of mine. I respect other people's parents but dont accept them as mine. Should I apologize for that too?/QUOTE]
I am not talking about respect and acceptance of a neighborhood uncle or aunty who happens to be a Hindu.
I that does not mean that we feel the same about hinduism too. Yes we respect hinduism but do not accept it. I am not sure why we should apologize for that when its not even a negative trait. You are just presenting it as negative trait.
As a Hindu, I do not feel that Muslim beliefs are any less than mine. They are just different. As a Muslim, can you honestly say the same about Hindu beliefs ? Moreover, is that what is written in your religious texts ?
And I am just contrasting the difference in the philosophy behind both religions - its not meant to be judgemental.
As a Hindu, I do not feel that Muslim beliefs are any less than mine.
but then why can't you accept their belief that your faith is untrue?
jk jk
you are splitting hairs pal. by insisting that muslims accept your faith to be equal to theirs, you are kinda going against what you say about accepting their belief. you arent. accepting would be saying, fine pal fine i don't care what you think of my belief as long as you mean no willful disrespect.
^in Islam there is beauty like other religions, I think i just have a hard time with the quranic verses talking about nonmuslims and nonmuslim practices/rituals, just like i can’t accept some of the verses in the bible or the vedas or some of the ways of thinking in buddhism that are a bit extreme. makes me dislike all religions, God probably wants to be free of all of them. frustration makes one think in that way. already so many differences between human beings and then when you add religious negativity about non-coreligionists or coreligionists, it can be even more frustrating…and then on top of all that when you add in all the different interpretations of all those verses in all those holy books…
if a person says "“La Ilaha Illallahu Muhammadur Rasulullah” they would have to accept all those verses about nonmuslims/nonmuslim practices wholeheartedly and follow them without question. i personally have a hard time with that.
edit:hope i didn’t offend religionists by saying all that
but then why can't you accept their belief that your faith is untrue?
Already accepted that :D
by insisting that muslims accept your faith to be equal to theirs
Never said that they accept my faith as equal to theirs - I am just pointing out that its their faith that tells them to not accept my faith as equal to theirs which was the original point of this thread.
I wish anyone a great time at any festival so long as it’s all for the Positive.
I dont have a problem with folk enjoying themselves so long as nobody gets hurt and it’s all good
Hell anyone want to invite me to a Festival?
Seriously I dont think it makes me any less of a Muslim if I greet others on thier festivals… in fact the way I think theres more chance they might respect my faith too… Respect is the word here. So long as it’s mutual all round there wont be no trouble in the first place.
WELL, we can see that over here in Muslim communities, we mostly say, happy valentine day, and many more,, as they are not allowed in Muslim,, but we do all of them,, and have neglected what does Islam says actually..
what do you say to the verses and the imams that say otherwise about what islam truly says? why can’t the same thinking be used for those that have inter religious marriages/relationships, does that make one less of a muslim since all a muslim is doing is loving a nonmuslim, ignore the verses that say that a nonmuslim tempts a muslim to the hellfire but Allah brings one closer to paradise. why can’t same thinking be applied to those verses and parts of islam too.
it can’t be selective following, as i’ve been told
what do you say to the verses and the imams that say otherwise about what islam truly says? why can't the same thinking be used for those that have inter religious marriages/relationships, does that make one less of a muslim since all a muslim is doing is loving a nonmuslim, ignore the verses that say that a nonmuslim tempts a muslim to the hellfire but Allah brings one closer to paradise. why can't same thinking be applied to those verses and parts of islam too.
it can't be selective following, as i've been told
We say nothing. Whats there to say? we're not allowed to marry non-muslims and neither is a christian or a jew. This is solely my own oppinion but I assume that when you marry a non muslim, it does affect the faith of your children somehow. Also, Islam says that marriage is have of your faith, meaning in the sense that it keeps you away from sin, if your partner is god fearing then it helps strengthen your deen, fulfilling a great sunnah etc etc. I'm sure there are stronger and legit reasons but I don't have knowledge to know.
My parents are my parents and for me, they are the only real parents of mine. I respect other people's parents but dont accept them as mine.
As long as you accept that others parents are as real for them as yours are for you, and just because they are not your parents does not make them any lesser, I rest my case :)
As long as you accept that others parents are as real for them as yours are for you, and just because they are not your parents does not make them any lesser, I rest my case :)
if you think deeply you'll know that you're arguing over nothing.
we're told in Quran that ""To you be your religion, and to me my religion". I think it should be clear for you now.
So can you explain where the term kafir or disbeliever came from ?
kafir is a person who rejects faith when in his heart he knows the truth, the term exists in all Abrahamic religions and perhaps in other religious scriptures as well.
Yes its a joke but that is my serious point. If Hinduism thinks that islam is also a right religion then it should be ok for them to accept islam.
yeah this is a common thing i hear a lot of hindus say condescendingly - we believe in multiple paths to god, they are all true blah blah.. - well clearly they don't believe in most other paths if you ask them a couple of basic questions. at best, there is nothing in hinduism to deny anyone their choice of religions, but it definitely does not concur with the specifics of most religions originating outside of the subcontinent.
kafir is a person who rejects faith when in his heart he knows the truth, the term exists in all Abrahamic religions and perhaps in other religious scriptures as well.
So essentially by labeling Hindus as kafir you are saying that they have rejected faith ergo Islam is the only true faith/religion and Hinduism is not.
Don't you think this contradicts your earlier statement about acceptance of other religions ?
