Do you find any part of Quran interesting & intriguing when you read its translation?

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As others mentioned before me, I cant claim Quran is boaring or some ayyas are more interesting than others. However I am unable to understand the deepnes of most of the ayyats, some of the ayyats however make me think, Above is the example:

Surah AT TAWBA

Verily, Allâh has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties for (the price) that theirs shall be the Paradise.

So ALLAH has purchased believers lives and Properties for JANNAT, this simply means Paradise Belongs to these Believers now.
They fight in Allâh’s Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed.
But the deal isnt with every believer, Only those Who fight in cause of ALLAH, they not only kill but also die in the fight.

It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Qur’ân. And who is truer to his covenant than Allâh?

Allah is reminding how truthful he is.

Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success.

ALLAH is telling us how good of deal they got.

They are those who repent, who worship who praise, who fast constantly, woo bow down, who prostrate themselves,

Then ALLAH starts telling more about the believers who he made the deal with.
They do Tawba, They Do Ibadat, they do Humd of ALLAH, They Fast, They do Sajdas and Rakoos

who command the reputable and restrain from the disreputable
They Do Amar bil Maroof and Nahi Anil Munkar.

and who keep the ordinances of Allah; and bear thou glad tidings to the believers.

They Secure the Shara (rules) of ALLAH and ALLAh is Telling Prophet s.a.w to give them good news.


Is ALLAH talking to a group or few individuals from few different groups, Are they only entering Jannat or have they pruchased Jannat from ALLAH, Do they perform all the Tawba, Ibadat, Humd, Rukoo-o-Sujood as they fight or only when they are home ? Who are these people ?

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as salaamu alaikum

aqeel, they are named in the verse before

the purchase aspect is swapping this world for the next and believing truely

there is another verse about those who pledged under the tree, Allah SWT looked into their hearts and was pleased with them

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Wa-Alikum Asalam

Na bro, nuthing here !

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sorry i meant 9-100

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Couldnt find anything. help please*

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**Dr. Mohsin : **And the foremost to embrace Islâm of the Muhâjirûn (those who migrated from Makkah to Al-Madinah) and the Ansâr (the citizens of Al-Madinah who helped and gave aid to the Muhâjirûn) and also those who followed them exactly (in Faith). Allâh is well-pleased with them as they are well-pleased with Him. He has prepared for them Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise), to dwell therein forever. That is the supreme success.

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Exactly, thats when it gets complicated.

In First AYYAT ALLAH says that

And the foremost to embrace Islâm of the Muhâjirûn and the Ansâr and also those who followed them exactly (in Faith). Allâh is well-pleased with them as they are well-pleased with Him. He has prepared for them Gardens under which rivers flow.

Next ALLAH says

And of the dwellers of the desert around you** some are hypocrites**, and so are** some of the people of Madinah**; they have become inured to hypocrisy thou knowest them not, We know them. We will torment them twice, and thereafter they shall be brought back to a torment terrible.

And when I am talking about 111-112
It says

They fight in Allâh’s Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed.

This doesnt Apply to most Mujhareen or Ansaar.

Now when ALLAH tells you I have made Gardens for you, it means you can go there.

When ALLAH says I have Purchased your life and Properties from you for Gardens. That means ALLAH has given them jannat as a deal. Now they have Jannat is there to keep, they can let in whom ever they want and Kick out whom ever they want.

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Brother Aqeel, there are many points but I will make just a few important pointers:

[Shakir 2:207] And among men is he who sells himself to seek the pleasure of Allah; and Allah is Affectionate to the servants.

Verse 2:207 is a perfect example from the Holy Quran where Allah swt praises a certain person at a certain occasion in words corresponding to 9:111. I will leave for you to investigate this further on your own.

The whole chapter of Tawba was revealed specially for the nonbelieving Meccans and the Prophet saww was ordered by Allah swt that this chapter be taken- either from him saww or one from him- and read out to them in Mecca. Do you know who was the person who took At Tawba to Mecca from Madina to read out to the nonbelieving Quraysh?

Another important point is that Allah swt says that these virtous people have been mentioned in the previous scriptures. There are verses in Old testement on a similar theme to Quran related to the selected righteous ones from the lineage of Ibrahim AS.

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these were the munafiks. eventually Allah SWT revealed to the Prophet who they were, they even built a MOSQUE to rival RasoolAllah saw’s mosque!! (from the sunnah) and theres a later order, in the Quran, to fight them. which brings us back, regarding the believers, to 'They fight in Allâh’s Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed.

in the verse of radiya allahu anhu warradoo anh the naming of the muhajareen and ansar and those who follow them leaves very little to the imagination and it is from Allah SWT

will get back to you on the other ayats later

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I did check 2:207 very nice Mashallah. thanks for sharing

yes i Know who was the person who took at tawba to read out to the non believing quresh.

Very good point yet again. They are mentioned in Quran Injeel and Turaat.

Now i see where you are going with this, Well i have another question for you. Can you please explain ALl-Darh (Al insaan)

  1. And they feed, for love of Him, the poor. The orphan and the prisoner.

           9. They say to them, 'We feed you for Allah pleasure only. We desire                no recompense or thanks from you'.
           
           10. Undoubtedly, we fear from our Lord a day, which is frowning                and very hard.
           
           11. So Allah has saved them from the evil of that day and granted                them cheerfulness and happiness.
           
           12. And recompensed them for their patience with a Garden, and silken                clothes.
    

And tell me what does 76:12 means to you.

Thanks Bro.

So these Munafiqs who built Masjid-e-Zaraar, were some of the Ansaar or Muhajareen or non of the above ?
and again, ALLAH says they fight in cause of ALLAH, they kill and then get killed… Doesnt happen in this war against Munafiqeens ( what was this war called ? ) I will wait for ur response.

Thanks for Replying so fast bro.

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none of the above
blessed are: almuhajireena waalansari waallatheena ittabaAAoohum biihsanin radiya Allahu AAanhum waradoo AAanhu
munafiqs: mina alaAArabi munafiqoona wamin ahli almadeenati
believing medinites are ansar - the helpers

both believers and munafiqs are mentioned here:
Mkhan:They are the ones who say: “Spend not on those who are with Allah’s Messenger, until they desert him.” And to Allah belong the treasures of the heavens and the earth, but the hypocrites comprehend not.

i dont recall a specific name mentioned for the war. the Messenger of Allah SWT muhammad SAW first threw them out of his Mosque and as they plotted they were killed and their mosque razed to the ground by the companions (radiya Allahu AAanhum waradoo AAanhu)

Mkhan: And as for those who put up a mosque by way of harm and disbelief and to disunite the believers and as an outpost for those who warred against Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) aforetime, they will indeed swear that their intention is nothing but good. Allah bears witness that they are certainly liars.

Never stand you therein. Verily, the mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety is more worthy that you stand therein (to pray). In it are men who love to clean and to purify themselves. And Allah loves those who make themselves clean and pure *.

Is it then he who laid the foundation of his building on piety to Allah and His Good Pleasure better, or he who laid the foundation of his building on the brink of an undetermined precipice ready to crumble down, so that it crumbled to pieces with him into the Fire of Hell. And Allah guides not the people who are the Zalimun (cruel, violent, proud, polytheist and wrong-doer).*

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For some reason, Chapter 3, verse 8 (I hope I got that right) has stuck with me. It says something to the effect of:

'This book* has* some verses which are unclear/gray. Yet, the true believers will take the more conservative meaning and avoid sin. The others will choose an interpretation that benefits them. ’

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Verse number 7 of Aal e Imran (as). This is a key verse of the Holy Quran when it comes to understanding/interpreting the message this book contains. The 2 verses following are connected to this verse. I wish we could discuss this verse after the ones we are already discussing here briefly.

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I’d like to talk a little about Surah Al-Tawbah Verse 100.

وَالسَّابِقُون َ الأَوَّلُونَ مِنَ الْمُهَاجِرِين َ وَالأَنصَارِ وَالَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوهُم بِإِحْسَانٍ رَّضِيَ اللّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُواْ عَنْهُ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِي تَحْتَهَا الأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا ذَلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ
[9:100] And (as for) the foremost the first of the Muhajireen and the Ansars, and those who followed them in goodness God is well pleased with them…

This “min” means “from” or “of”. What this means is not ALL the Muhaajireen and the Ansaars are inclusive in this verse. A clear example will be a man from Ansaar who refused to embrace Bilal -may Allah be pleased with him- despite the command of the Prophet (saww). As a side note I will mention that Prophet saww had ordred every man from Ansaar to take a Muhajir as his brother but very interestingly for himself Prophet (saww) took Ali (as) as his brother depsite both being the immigrants! (the same repeated at other occasion in history)

Coming back to our discussion about the vserse.

[9:100] And (as for) the foremost the first of the Muhajireen and the Ansars, and those who followed them in goodness God is well pleased with them…

Foremost in migration? accepting Islam? goodness? the condition is clearly the goodness which sits perfectly with the other verses of the Holy Quran and other verses where the terms of السَّابِقُونَ الْأَوَّلُونَ"are refered to.

Also note that all the preceeding and succeeding verses starting with “wa” are to be read in association.

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The whole chapter of Suratul Dahr (also known as Insaan) was revealed in honour of the Prophet (saww), his Ahlul Bayt (as), plus their pious maid Fizza may Allah reward her. This is when they had vowed to fast for a few days but for three consecutive day when it was time to end the fast they gave away the food to a poor man, the next day an orphan, and on the third a prisioner.

Mariam (as) used to give away her food to the poor and as reward received food from heaven.
[3:37] Whenever Zakaria visited her in the sanctuary, he found provision with her. He said, ‘O Maryam, from where does this come for you?’ She said, ‘It comes from Allah. Allah provides whomever He wishes without any reckoning’.

Allah (swt) said in honour of Mariam (as) in Suratul Aal e Imran (as) Verse 42 …“O Marium! surely Allah has chosen you and purified you and chosen you above the women of of the world.”

Similarly Fatima (as) was purified (33:33) and by the command of Allah (swt) Prophet (saww) honoured her with the title of “Chief of the women of the Paradise”, Sayedata Nisa al Alameen.

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:jazak:

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Salam Bro,
You have ignored the point that is really important, Your post did help though.

So from your posts the conclusion related to 9 (111-112) is that these ayyats are for the Mahajreen and Ansar who were martyred against the unnamed war against Munafiq’s ? can you please name the momins who were martyred in that war ?

I insist on Martyrs only becoz ALLAH says that they kill and then get killled in way of ALLAH. So it only applies to Martyrs not veterans.

Thanks for explanation bro, but i was looking for more detail as what is the reward for Fatima a.s, and her family. which is mentioned in 76-12

  1. So Allah has saved them from the evil of that day and granted them cheerfulness and happiness.

          12. And recompensed them for their patience with a Garden, and silken                clothes.
    

Does it mean that Garden belongs to em or are they allowed to enter the Garden ?*

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i have not ignored but i think it is better to first clarify the position of the believers better known as SAHABA (radiya Allahu AAanhum waradoo AAanhu) in the DEEN approved for us by Allah SWT in the Quran.

i dont think 9:111-112 just refers to martyres ‘they fight in the Way of Allah, kill and are killed’ (plus many other virtues*). it is teaching us and it is describing the believers (SAHABA ra of RasoolAllah SAW) who exemplified the DEEN, and for this Allah SWT has promised them and us, in all the kitabs, paradise (janata). read it carefully

btw it would be beneficial for you to look up before and after maps of islamic expansion to see if they did fight during Prophethood and after

*there are prerequisites to fighting

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Bro, only Allah (swt) knows the details of the reward! I have briefly tried to find narrations related to this verse but have not find anything so I am unable to contribute anything really. But verse # 12 connects very well with the titles of Syedata Nisa al Alemeen Fatima Zahra (as) and Syedul Shababe Ahluljannat, Hassan and Hussain (as).

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Bro, Sahabas and Believers are not interchangeable terms. And this very verse is an excellent proof of that. For further proofs you could analyse other verses of the holy Quran that talk of the Sahaba, study Hadiths that are commonly accepted, or examine history where can see that many grand Sahabas came out in battles against each other without anybody using this verse as an evidence of their truthfulness.