Do you believe in Scientific Theory of Evo or Adam and Eve story?

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One of the best post in the forum I ever read. You must have devoted lot of your time to teach us things in such great depth. Thanks

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Do u believe in mutation phatima.?

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James_Bhaand, i was wandering if u knew how singhs evolved, ever since singhs stepped on this earth, they suffered partial blindness, the trouble was they could only see directly forward and upwards, this led to many sikh brethren falling off the edge of cliffs and even their own roofs when trying too fix a leak. Anyway, this meant a lot of broken bones and pelvis injuries, and in them days victims of such accidents died as no one could treat them, however some did survive, the forefathers of every singh today, the then singh doctors were mistified and left scratching their heads (could be because tuban too tight), however the legend of these super singhs still lives today, they are known today as ' SINGH BOND THE BECH SPRING '.

Spring in the ass, thats ingenious..............the wonders of evolution??????

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Genetic mutation? Sure. I don't see how one couldn't. It happens every now and then.

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I believe the Adam and Eve story, and obviously reject Darwin's theory.

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The Abrahamic religions, Christianity, Islam and Judaism all contain the myth of Adam and Eve as the first two created people. Genetically, in-breeding results in mutations and infertile offspring, and the other sciences noted all point to evolution and more standard biological development as the real creator of the Human species. So, what is done with the story of Adam and Eve?

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"God, being a pure spirit, has no hands, and He causes His creatures to develop one from another by the power which He has imparted to Nature. If, therefore, the Lord made Adam from the dust of the earth, we must understand that man came out of that earth under the Divine Influence and yet after a natural manner."
"History of Magic" by Eliphas Levi

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Eliphas Levi is saying is that the method by which God created the first Human beings was via evolution. God, if it existed, created the Universe using the Big bang in a way that would facilitate the evolution of mankind on Earth following normal natural laws of nature. Adam and Eve may represent the first two Human Beings, or the first conscious ones. But basically, this portrays god as a god of the gaps: As nature and science account for the existence of life and consciousness, God itself is no longer directly responsible or necessary in order to explain these things.

Incest
After Adam and Eve had children, how did they proceed onto the third generation? The children must have slept with each other, or their own parents. How do you explain this to an inquisitive child without condoning incest? Incest was the order of the day, and would have been required for two or three generations. The same applies to the story of Noah's Ark. The children of Noah's family and his wife's family must have slept with members of their parent's family, or each other. Any further generations would again be faced with the same choice.

Biology
The main problem is not morals, it can be argued that just because it is immoral does not mean that it didn't happen. The main problem is biological. Interbreeding two families causes severe retardation, mutation and infertility. This happens to isolated Human population even when there are more then two families. The problem increases with severity the more the inbreeding occurs.

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"...full-sibling or parent-child incest results in about 17% child mortality and 25% child disability, for a combined result of about 42% nonviable offspring"
Donald Brown, 'Human Universals' pp123

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The phenomenon of nonviable offspring from breeding between closely related family members is not limited to Humans, but to most life, especially amongst mammals and multicellular organisms:

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"A study of 38 captive mammalian species found a cross-species average of around 33% offspring mortality resulting from closely incestuous matings"
Donald Brown, 'Human Universals' pp124
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Due to the non viable offspring that result from incest, which gets worse with each generation, the Adam and Eve story cannot be the literal whole truth. The only moral escape route is to admit that the Adam and Eve story is a metaphor. The only biologically correct explanation known is that we evolved slowly from lower animals so that incest was never a problem.

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Day by day, the theory of evolution is getting grounds. Yes Darwin did a great job to the earth as did other sceintists.

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thanks folks, enlightening discussion. carry on. :>

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Adam and Eve theory is not really a theory,its more of a stupid story with no validity.The only reliable theory about our origin is that of Darwin's,it makes more sense than any of the crap in holy books.

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Wake Up Dude!, Eve or Amma Hawwa i.e. is called "JiddaH" in Arabic, and Her Grave is located in the City Named after her in Saudi Arabia.
Jeddah.
**Check it out before you follow Darwin down UNDER, then it will be too late!!:D **

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Sindsagar! Can you tell me exactly when your Eve or Jiddah lived on this planet? 3000 years ago? 4000 years ago? 5000 years ago. Scentific research has proved that humans are as old as 2.5 millions years.

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Interesting and amusing. If you are a believer, it is very easy to think Adam and Eve to be the perfect humans as they were created by Him. Any off springs (incestual or otherwise) in the initial stages must have kept those flawless genes atleast for some generations.

I am believer but I see a lot of facts in the evolution theory as well. One thing I believe is that whatever the facts science reveal, it can never disapprove the existence of God. The discoveries we made through science are marvellous but the amazing thing is that the more we know, the more we realise how little we know.

Whatever we discover, we find that there is a logic behind it. If God did not want us to discover His universe, He could have made things without any logic behind. To me God did such so that we explore His creations and one day reach Him in His heavens.

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Carbon dating can give us that answer, if you can convince the local athourities...:)

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carbon dating can’t get back later than 40 000 years ago, you got use other means to date older stuff:hoonh:, and oldest humans is older, or it ain’t oldest human:halo: