Do You Believe in Ghost Spirits?

[cricketplaya]

@SargeCandy

There are 9999 creations of ALLAH. Humans, animals, jinns, angels, moakillat make 5 only. There are many creations un-seen by us. Some are bad, some are good.

They dont have the ability to fly, but their movement is teleportation.

Talking in terms of spirituality and black magic, a bad Spirit (bud-rooh) is also capturable. A good spirit is a strong spirit and cannot be captured by a black magician. A bad spirit is the one who in his life kept doing bad deeds, suffers its doings in the grave and a black magician may sit in a graveyard and keep doing chillas there and once succeeds may use a bad spirit for his notorious tasks. This is also a topic on its own.

Bro, 9999 creations of Allah?? Is it mentioned in Quran or Hadiths??

Also maybe it’s only the definition of “flying” but Prophet (pbuh) has said:
“There are three types of jinn. **One type flies through the air. **
Another type consists of snakes and dogs. A third type is based in one place but travels about.” (Related by al-Hakam, at-Tabrani and al-Bayhaqi.)

Can you provide any evidence of “capturing bad spirits” in the Quran or Sunnah?

[SargeCandy]

@cricketplaya

Bro, 9999 creations of Allah?? Is it mentioned in Quran or Hadiths??

I read it somewhere, i have googled but havent found any link as yet.

Also maybe it’s only the definition of “flying” but Prophet (pbuh) has said:
“There are three types of jinn. **One type flies through the air. **
Another type consists of snakes and dogs. A third type is based in one place but travels about.” (Related by al-Hakam, at-Tabrani and al-Bayhaqi.)

Why do people always go after literal meanings is beyond me.

Hazrat Muhammad (saw) is correct. The movement of jinns is called flying, they and other types are even called " hawai makhlook"(flying creation). But they dont fly like having wings like planes and birds, they TELEPORT. and thats referred to as flying.

Can you provide any evidence of “capturing bad spirits” in the Quran or Sunnah?

Now, why would Koran/sunnah contain anything that helps in doing black magic and harming people.
Its a type of black magic technique, just like a technique used to do black magic on Hazrat Muhammad (saw)

[cricketplaya]

@SargeCandy

I read it somewhere, i have googled but havent found any link as yet.

Why do people always go after literal meanings is beyond me.

Hazrat Muhammad (saw) is correct. The movement of jinns is called flying, they and other types are even called " hawai makhlook"(flying creation). But they dont fly like having wings like planes and birds, they TELEPORT. and thats referred to as flying.

Now, why would Koran/sunnah contain anything that helps in doing black magic and harming people.
Its a type of black magic technique, just like a technique used to do black magic on Hazrat Muhammad (saw)

Teleportation/flying whatever, forget it, no use for me =)

and about capturing spirits, I have never heard about this. I know capturing jinns is fact but spirits? if that were the case then the sahaba would of spoken to Prophet Muhammad (saw) for advice…

[Daddy_s_Girl]

@SargeCandy

I read it somewhere, i have googled but havent found any link as yet.

Why do people always go after literal meanings is beyond me.

Hazrat Muhammad (saw) is correct. The movement of jinns is called flying, they and other types are even called " hawai makhlook"(flying creation). But they dont fly like having wings like planes and birds, they TELEPORT. and thats referred to as flying.

Now, why would Koran/sunnah contain anything that helps in doing black magic and harming people.
**Its a type of black magic technique, just like a technique used to do black magic on Hazrat Muhammad (saw)

**

Lol… told you Sarge!!!

[mustanamalik]

Re: Do You Believe in Ghost Spirits?

Spirits can be called. The procedure is followed by Black Magicians and once captured, they are sent over their targets. They bind to the soul and compel the victim to die, commit suicide, etc. In this procedure, some objects are buried in graveyard.

Your can Google “calling the spirits” and see. Some ordinary people have also tried meeting their ancestors by calling their Spirits.

[Nosherwan]

After death the ghost-spirits (rooh) of living people pass away from this life and on into the middle-life (barzakh) and stays in that state untill the after-life on the day of judgement.

Hidden-spirits (jinns) created from fire are a completely different creation from humans and it is they who take the shape of deceased humans and pretend to be ghosts, possess people, haunt places etc.

We Muslims believe that every person is accompanied by a Qareen from the Jinn from the day he is born… Maybe it is this Qareen who takes the form of the person it accompanied during their lifetime?

It is this Qareen who is responsible for telling palmists and fortune tellers about your secrets.

[Miss_Noland]

@Nosherwan

After death the ghost-spirits (rooh) of living people pass away from this life and on into the middle-life (barzakh) and stays in that state untill the after-life on the day of judgement.

Hidden-spirits (jinns) created from are a completely different creation from humans and it is they who take the shape of deceased humans and pretend to be ghosts, possess people, haunt places etc.

We Muslims believe that every person is accompanied by a Qareen from the Jinn from the day he is born… Maybe it is this Qareen who takes the form of the person it accompanied during their lifetime?

It is this Qareen who is responsible for telling palmists and fortune tellers about your secrets.

Interesting, never heard of Qareen before. I will definitely look into it.

So I am getting m ixed responses. It seems like there’s a lot of confusion around this subject. From all your somewhat vague responses, it seems like most of you do believe in wandering spirits, yes? You can call it whatever but you do believe in it. Interesting.

[fat_spartan]

I believe in spirits. I don’t believe that they’re undead as per the popular notion of what a ghost is. They’re jinns, beings who are alive and like us, they also have free will.

[SargeCandy]

@Nosherwan

After death the ghost-spirits (rooh) of living people pass away from this life and on into the middle-life (barzakh) and stays in that state untill the after-life on the day of judgement.

Hidden-spirits (jinns) created from fire are a completely different creation from humans and it is they who take the shape of deceased humans and pretend to be ghosts, possess people, haunt places etc.

We Muslims believe that every person is accompanied by a Qareen from the Jinn from the day he is born… Maybe it is this Qareen who takes the form of the person it accompanied during their lifetime?

It is this Qareen who is responsible for telling palmists and fortune tellers about your secrets.

Not every spirit (rooh) goes to Barzakh.

Jinns can change shapes. I havent heard of them taking shape of a deceased person. because the spirit (rooh) of a deceased person already exists and is alive.

There is also something known as “hum-zaat or hum-zaad”. an identical of every person. any body knows about this?

[SargeCandy]

@fat_spartan

I believe in spirits. I don’t believe that they’re undead as per the popular notion of what a ghost is. They’re jinns, beings who are alive and like us, they also have free will.

spirits and jinns are different.

[SargeCandy]

@Miss_Noland

Interesting, never heard of Qareen before. I will definitely look into it.

So I am getting m ixed responses. It seems like there’s a lot of confusion around this subject. From all your somewhat vague responses, it seems like most of you do believe in wandering spirits, yes? You can call it whatever but you do believe in it. Interesting.

I think he is referring Qareen as the “satan” which is born with every human being and stays with him, till his death. He is responsible for making a person divert from ALLAH’s path.

[Daddy_s_Girl]

@SargeCandy

Not every spirit (rooh) goes to Barzakh.

Jinns can change shapes. I havent heard of them taking shape of a deceased person. because the spirit (rooh) of a deceased person already exists and is alive.

There is also something known as “hum-zaat or hum-zaad”. an identical of every person. any body knows about this?

I have heard of this… not sure of details though… need to research as heard about it years ago…

[SargeCandy]

Re: Do You Believe in Ghost Spirits?

^^

Any input by you would be apprecaited then, thanx.

[Nosherwan]

@SargeCandy

Not every spirit (rooh) goes to Barzakh.

Jinns can change shapes. I havent heard of them taking shape of a deceased person. because the spirit (rooh) of a deceased person already exists and is alive.

Anything from the Quran/Sunnah (not some Peer Faqeer) to prove that some of the deceased don’t go onto Barzakh?

[cricketplaya]

@SargeCandy

There is also something known as “hum-zaat or hum-zaad”. an identical of every person. any body knows about this?

same as a qareen i believe.

I think when you say identical, you’re describing the qareen. It’s when we don’t any love for Allah in our hearts, this qareen will take our place, same as saying identical person.

[Miss_Noland]

Re: Do You Believe in Ghost Spirits?

^ Interesting..

[SargeCandy]

@Nosherwan

Anything from the Quran/Sunnah (not some Peer Faqeer) to prove that some of the deceased don’t go onto Barzakh?

You never say salam to graves when you come across a graveyard?

When Nabi Kareem Sallallahu Alaihi passed near graveyard of Madina Munawwarah then he said:

“Assalam O Aalaikum Ya Ahlul Quboor Yagfirullahu Lana Walakum wa antum salfuna wa nahnu bil asari” (Mishkaat - Baab Ziaratul Quboor, Tirmizi)

[Sabeera]

@SargeCandy

You never say salam to graves when you come across a graveyard?

When Nabi Kareem Sallallahu Alaihi passed near graveyard of Madina Munawwarah then he said:

“Assalam O Aalaikum Ya Ahlul Quboor Yagfirullahu Lana Walakum wa antum salfuna wa nahnu bil asari” (Mishkaat - Baab Ziaratul Quboor, Tirmizi)

JazakAllah

[mustanamalik]

Re: Do You Believe in Ghost Spirits?

Very well quoted Sargecandy

[Daddy_s_Girl]

@SargeCandy

Not every spirit (rooh) goes to Barzakh.

Jinns can change shapes. I havent heard of them taking shape of a deceased person. because the spirit (rooh) of a deceased person already exists and is alive.

There is also something known as “hum-zaat or hum-zaad”. an identical of every person. any body knows about this?

As far as I amaware, this “hum-Zaad” thing is not another being with your face… it is something that is inside every individual… it is the the thing that makes you go off the right path… Allah has put EVERYTHING inside a human… we are only aware of the Rooh… there is a lot more inside a human than what we can even imagine… i’m sorry, I can’t go into details here…