So I know according to Muslim belief, no such thing exist. Why does Islam say that Jinns, angels, demons exist but not ghosts (yet there are many accounts of ghost sightings and none for Jinns) Is there are specific reason for this?
If such beliefs go against Islam, why are there so many muslims who believe in spirits and ghosts?
AND what do you think of people who have psychic abilities?
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ghost=spirit=rooh,which after leaving the body, has some serious music to face for the wrongs done in worldly life rather than going around and scaring people and it also sounds illogical.
dont know anything about demons.jins and humans who are evil do harm sometimes.
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^ There are many other things that sound illogical. I am just saying that the existence of ghost spirits wandering around threaten the muslim belief, doesn't it? Why do muslims believe in it then?
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ghosts/spirits dont wander around and muslims dont believe in spirits haunting people.muslims believe in jinns and evil jins can haunt and harm sometimes.
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from Sunnipath:
The creation of Allah is such that a human being can never fully encompass it with his research and knowledge.
The human mind is very limited. Allah says in the Qur'an: "and He creates what you do not know." [al-Nahl, 9]
Therefore, if there was something unnatural seen then it is not far from the power of Allah.
With regards to Jinns, their existence is proven from many verses of the Qur'an and sayings of the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace). The Traditions have reached the level of certainty (tawaatur).
For example Allah says in Sura al-Hijr:
"And the Jinn, We had created them afore of the fire of scorching wind" [v.27].
There is a whole Sura in the Qur'an regarding the Jinn.
The Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace), many of his Companions and countless pious [and irreligious] people have met [and continue to meet] the Jinn. They are just another creation of Allah and they will also be reckoned on the day of judgment. They eat, travel, marry, have children, worship Allah, learn knowledge, give Fatwa, narrate Hadith, make Bay'a with a Shaykh etc... Just as humans, there are good and evil Jinns.
Therefore if some un-natural presence was felt, then it could be a Jinn. However, one should avoid thinking to much about it. At times its just mind games and could be detrimental for the well being of the person.
^ There are many other things that sound illogical. I am just saying that the existence of ghost spirits wandering around threaten the muslim belief, doesn't it? Why do muslims believe in it then?
having no soul will threaten the muslim belief,
And he (i.e. man) presents for Us an example (i.e. attempting to establish the finality of death) and forgets his [own] creation. He says, “Who will give life to bones while they are disintegrated?” Say, “He will give them life who produced them the first time; and He is, of all creation, Knowing.” [It is] He who made for you from the green tree, fire, and then from it you ignite. Is not He who created the heavens and the earth Able to create the likes of them? Yes, [it is so]; and He is the Knowing Creator. (Quran, 36:78-81)
from Sunnipath:
The creation of Allah is such that a human being can never fully encompass it with his research and knowledge.
The human mind is very limited. Allah says in the Qur'an: "and He creates what you do not know." [al-Nahl, 9]
Therefore, if there was something unnatural seen then it is not far from the power of Allah.
With regards to Jinns, their existence is proven from many verses of the Qur'an and sayings of the Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace). The Traditions have reached the level of certainty (tawaatur).
For example Allah says in Sura al-Hijr:
"And the Jinn, We had created them afore of the fire of scorching wind" [v.27].
There is a whole Sura in the Qur'an regarding the Jinn.
The Prophet (Allah bless him & give him peace), many of his Companions and countless pious [and irreligious] people have met [and continue to meet] the Jinn. They are just another creation of Allah and they will also be reckoned on the day of judgment. They eat, travel, marry, have children, worship Allah, learn knowledge, give Fatwa, narrate Hadith, make Bay'a with a Shaykh etc... Just as humans, there are good and evil Jinns.
Therefore if some un-natural presence was felt, then it could be a Jinn. However, one should avoid thinking to much about it. At times its just mind games and could be detrimental for the well being of the person.
Anything outside of Quran that proves Jinns exist?
Anything outside of Quran that proves Jinns exist?
Hadiths.. and real life experiences with jinns by the pious men and regular people..
Anything outside of Quran that proves Jinns exist?
Area 51 in the Nevada Desert could have proof of the existance of Jinns and their vehicles................but that is top secret cover up!
But people being abducted by so called aliens in America can have a connection to Jinns.............because there are no Aliens from other planets............
only in Hollywood Movies........
I think the cover up of Area 51 and what is hidden in it may give us positive proof that the Holy Quran is Right!
Hadiths.. and real life experiences with jinns by the pious men and regular people..
Could it be that muslims call these unknown beings Jinn? You will hear others claim they are not jinns. How do we know who is right? Jinn could be anything, no?
Area 51 in the Nevada Desert could have proof of the existance of Jinns and their vehicles................but that is top secret cover up!
But people being abducted by so called aliens in America can have a connection to Jinns.............because there are no Aliens from other planets............
only in Hollywood Movies........
I think the cover up of Area 51 and what is hidden in it may give us positive proof that the Holy Quran is Right!
You go tell them they are Jinn instead of some E.T intelligent beings. Area 51 is just a highly secured military base, I doubt it even has any kind of secret alien autopsy going on in there, but you never know. How are you so sure there are no aliens?
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Anyways, you seem to know the difference between Jinnat and ghost, yet there are many stories of ghost sightings. How does Islam dismiss such accounts? There are psychic kids, who can communicate with these ghosts. Why would kids make up such stuff? and NO they are not Jinnat or angels as they claim.
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The "ghosts" may be jinns. Most of the time it's just imagination playing with us.
Are you sure these "kids" communicate with ghosts and not jinns? People do communicate with jinns good and bad.. I've watched many of those "haunted house" shows on tv, and one thing in common is that the pets start to bark or whatever when there some mischievous activity, according to Islam, animals can see the jinns. So these "ghosts" may in fact be jinns.
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So jinns are ghosts of diseased people? Doesn't make sense. According to these psychic kids, these ghostly figures look like humans and though they scare them they don't harm them. I suppose you could call these beings anything- jinn, ghosts, spirits, or demons..
Even if you say these ghosts are jinn, then why do these jinn always haunt places like abandoned homes, hospitals, jails etc. Why do they look like people who used to be there, why do these jinn take up their shape? And how do jinns know to imitate the person who lived there when alive?
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miss n, im not aware of any proven ghost stories. ghosts are as fiction as religion to many people
So I know according to Muslim belief, no such thing exist. Why does Islam say that Jinns, angels, demons exist but not ghosts (yet there are many accounts of ghost sightings and none for Jinns) Is there are specific reason for this?
If such beliefs go against Islam, why are there so many muslims who believe in spirits and ghosts?
AND what do you think of people who have psychic abilities?
As a Muslim, my belief is that ghosts do not exist according to the assumptions about them. As for the "ghost" sightings you mention, has anyone confirmed what they are that you can say that they are ghosts and not jinns? People might see those things and as far as they know, they are encountering ghosts. Somebody who knows them as jinns might experience the same thing and they will say that they encountered jinns.
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todays science (last 40 years)
No that’s not the definition I mentioned nor do Muslims believe that. Jinns were created by Allah just as humans were created. Shaytan is a Jinn too. There are good and bad jinns, just like good and bad humans. Jinns have their system like governments, education, culture, religions, etc just like humans do. The only difference is we can’t see them BUT they can see us.
And yes Jinns can take and do majority of the time take shape of humans and animals when appearing in front of humans. We would be terrified if we saw one in real form..
Jinns don’t haunt places, they live and stay there. They mostly like dirty, filthy and empty spaces.
The jinns have been giving the power and ability to take shape, by Allah. They are physically stronger than humans, they have the power to fly, and other mischievous practices such as magic.
You can read up on Prophet Sulaiman (Solomon), how he was given the power to control the jinns. There is a theory that the knights templar dug up the book which consisted of secrets that unlocked the power to control the jinns, that’s how the freemasons, illuminati, all those secret groups are said to have powers (ie power to control jinn).
It is best to avoid talking about this subject because 1 it will make us lose our mind. 2, the jinn are mostly bad creatures, they can do really nasty things to us and our families so it’s best to avoid talking about them.
(just for kicks, have you seen the movie excorcist? yeah that’s how a jinn takes control), all these excorcisms that we hear that demons have taken control, we don’t call em demons, they are JINNS.
check out this video: http://www.paklinks.com/gs/video-gallery/408217-destroying-taweez-amulets.html
also if interested in more info on Jinns, black magic, evil eyes: http://islamicexorcism.wordpress.com/
So I know according to Muslim belief, no such thing exist. Why does Islam say that Jinns, angels, demons exist but not ghosts (yet there are many accounts of ghost sightings and none for Jinns) Is there are specific reason for this?
If such beliefs go against Islam, why are there so many muslims who believe in spirits and ghosts?
AND what do you think of people who have psychic abilities?
There are 9999 creations of ALLAH. Humans, animals, jinns, angels, moakillat make 5 only. There are many creations un-seen by us. Some are bad, some are good.
If you are referring to a spirit/ghosts as a "rooh" which is inside a human body once a human is alive and leaves the body after he is dead, then yes spirits/ghosts exist.
Jinns and spirits are two very different things.
Jinns live in their own world, usually where humans are not present.
They build their own cities and socities, unseen by naked eye.
They dont have the ability to fly, but their movement is teleportation.
Jinns belong to different religions and posses different powers, which can be enhanced by more meditation and certain spells.
They can be captured by human beings through different spells or "chillas" and then used for various tasks by humans.However that discussion is a topic on its own.
The good qualities of jinns are: they never tell lies, they keep their promises until death, they are not hypocrites.
Jinns are made of fire.
Spirit leaves a body when a human being dies.
That spirit may either go to the skies (Aalim-E-Barzakh) or stay in its grave and suffer the torment of doings.
Spirits are made from "noor" of ALLAH.
The strength of a spirit is determined by the fact how much pious was a human being during his lifetime and how many good deeds he did during his life.The strength of spirit is a very important factor, as a good spirit is a strong spirit and may be allowed to go to Aalim-e-Barzakh. A weak spirit, maybe a muslim, cannot go to Aalim-e-Barzakh, until it reached a certain level of strength, which can be done after its death by:
1. Praying for that dead person's spirit through Quranic verses (Khatam-e-Koran, Fatiha etc) by children,relatives,friends etc.
2.Sadqa-e-Jaria of any kind as the sawab may go to him.
Talking in terms of spirituality and black magic, a bad Spirit (bud-rooh) is also capturable. A good spirit is a strong spirit and cannot be captured by a black magician. A bad spirit is the one who in his life kept doing bad deeds, suffers its doings in the grave and a black magician may sit in a graveyard and keep doing chillas there and once succeeds may use a bad spirit for his notorious tasks. This is also a topic on its own.
There are people amongst us who have psychic abilities, and can communicate with jinns or spirits etc. They may use different ways and have different styles and different levels of communication with jinns or spirits. Some only communicate while others capture them. Some help mankind by relieving them from such afflictions. There are different sources of knowledge for communication: black magic, spiritualism (roohaniat), numerology, astrology etc.
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