Do you beleive in Darwinism or Intelligent Design ?

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@USResident

So when a muslim states that this universe is enough symbolic evidence of the existence of a creator, why is that hard to fathom?

I have been consistently hearing from you that there is evidence of evolution. Please provide a bullet list of items which you constitute as evidence that evolution is what brought about us humans. There isn’t anything to discuss if the argument is that there is evidence yet it cannot be put in simple words for one to read.

The analogy of a criminal committing a crime is not the same. No one gets convicted on theoretical evidence. Rarely would that be the case. When a crime is committed there is a crime scene, there are other tangible proofs, victims, witnesses etc etc. So this is not a good analogy.

I am not against adaptation within a species and I even read the theory of evolution and Darwins books with quite interest. He had an amazing power of observation and was indeed a good naturalist. What I do not agree with is that this theory has been vouched as a substitute for God having involvement in the creation of humans. The belief that humans evolved from lower single cell organisms on their own, by chance when favorable conditions (natural selection) existed is fantasy.

My interpretation of Islam is spot on and there is no room for a chance human creation over millions of years. Its crystal clear in the Quran, God created us as we are today, as a human species, distinct from other existing species. There is no mention of other species which could have existed at the time which could have been similar to us in anatomy but of lesser intelligence. So this means that they could have existed or not and fossil remains of them today, that could be taken as proof of their existence but it does not mean they are our ancestors and the same species or that they transformed into another species called humans.

My religious beliefs state that Quran is a divinely revealed scripture and I believe that and believe in what it tells me. I always scrutinize the Quran and find it amazingly in coherence with scientific finds as time progresses. To me if sciencec contradicts the Quran, then the scientific theory is incorrect and later on it will change. Why it is so, because I believe the Quran is from a divine authority which cannot be wrong. Simple. I would say that verses in the Quran which discuss scientific phenomenon or facts sometimes need re-interpreted based on newer scientific data.

Tell me, has evolution stopped? Or are we still in the process of transforming into another species?

Your going around in circles… Let me address this point by point.
First, anything regarding faith is just that, its based on faith. You either believe it or you dont believe it.
So when a Muslim, Christian or Jew or even a Hindu says the Universe is enough symbolic evidence, thats perfectly fine for them, but its no based on science or fact, its based on faith, a willingness to believe. Religion is one big assumption.
Personally I didnt ask for evidence for the existance of God, or validation of Islamic belilef.. I believe because I want to believe, despite the lack of evidence. So looking for evidence for god in the Universe is irrelevant.

To discuss the evidence of evolution will take some more time… For now, suffice it to say that there is evidence for evolution in all related fields of evolution.
Here are good links for you to read through:
What is the evidence for evolution?
The Evolution Evidence Page
Its all here for you…

Once again you use the term THEORY in the wrong way. Go back and read the definition as its used by scientists and then continue.
The criminal analogy fits because like evolution, there is a overwhelming proponderance of evidence that points us in the direction guilt. In the case of evolution, there is a great deal of evidence which points in the direction of evolution being true.
And just like evolution, in the analogy, you didnt see the crime take place, but if you see the evidence, you can assume that the criminal did commit the crime. As with a crime, evolution also has evidence, there is tangible proof, genetic, anatomic etc. You just need to examine the evidence.
Just because you didnt see a single celled organism turn into a man, doesnt mean evolution is invalidated.
Evolution doesnt say anything about god. Its for you to come to terms with the place of God in all this. Many scientists have come to terms with evolution and God, its not that difficult. People make the mistake of undermining Evolution just because it somehow contradicts there religious belief. I think you should understand God within the context of science and evidence. If you are truly fiathful, you will come to terms with the two.
If there is evidence to the contrary, then your understanding of Islam is obviously not spot on. An intelectually honest person would understand that you cant shut yourself in by sticking to a static understanding of the universe.
And if Islam is truly universal in every sense, then it to should support all, and conform to all scientific evidence, after all its god that created the Universe for which we are finding evidence.
Science cant contradict the Koran, your right. But I dont say that Science is wrong, I say my understaniding of the relgiion is off.
There is no arguing with overwhelming evidence. Whether you like it or not, evolution is a recognized mechanism for how we came to be. If this science contradicts your religous beliefs, then its your beliefs that are off, not the science.