Do Women Know What They Want?

Women.. Yes, another thread about them.

I have to say, this is somewhat an offshoot of my other thread ‘The Systematic Degradation of Men’s Rights’. I must warn you that these are just my observations.. there is nothing absolute in the argument that follows.

Over the last hundred or so years, the world has changed considerable amount, and so have the relationships. The prevalent norms of wooing of women have turned into a sophisticated game, make one mistake and you are out. A lot more is expected of men now that they have to be romantic, understanding, care about women’s issues, touch the right buttons, approach in a gentle yet affective manner, should not act possessive, should not come on too strong and the list continues. However, with all their predefined notions of what works and what does not work, most women are too naive to know what they really want. They try to passionately follow the gender based model on what should turn them on, but do not know what actually should matter. Most men have adapted to the new rules of the game quite well, and do know what to tell the women and how to pull the act to get the * mission accomplished *. They pull the right strings, and the quality and quantity of what they get varied with their experience and skills. This often leads to troubled marriages when women expect the same level of emotionality and intimacy from the relationship, which men are not willing to put themselves up for because the mission was already accomplished.

There are many men who genuinely care for their women, but those are the honest men, who, for the sake of principles, appear harsh at times. Those men would love sincerely, but they are not the most charming of the men, women look for in the beginning of a relationship. I think the blame has to be shared by both men and women; women for having unrealistic expectations from a relationship, and men for faking those emotions. What do you guys think??

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are u married?n r u talking abt the serious relationship n commitment b/w a married couple or just the hanky pany ones
i'm thinking nothing at the moment.but ur research seems baseless to me.

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Unrealistic expectations could come from both sides and can vary significantly depending on the type of people involved. Good work on explaining it though.

Everybody has expectations, later on its majorly an issue of compromise and moulding - that is very important. Nagging never helps.

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initiator what you said about women is quite sad and generally true - many many women today are left broken hearted and disappointed and they dont know where they went wrong. They were too easily fooled by thetricks of the trade`that men have mastered so so well now. :(

I think women need to strenghten themselves emotionally, in general. They need to increase their self-image, self-confidence and worry less about material distractions - so they can 1) Not be so easily fooled by men who make false promises or shower them with material goods and 2) Even if they`re left heartbroken and loney can recover fast and well :)

The truth is women need men to complete them and vice versa. Why do both genders make it extra hard for each other to accomplish security between them - men think they know what women want and women think they know what men want and both act according to their thinking. Mostly its all guess work and what weve seen on TV. This needs to change.

I agree men and women need each to complete one another. But what find most disturbing these days that women want men to adapt to their interests and way of thinking. It's important for women to let men be men.

Thank you! :)

My take on that is quite simple. A principled person does not always seek to keep everyone happy as that would often mean a compromise over principles. In relationships, principled men would not say things that they know they won't be able to fulfill. They would be more straightforward and open about their financial situation, and reveal their true expectations from a married life. That means they won't say or do things they don't truly mean, which would not be music to a woman's ears at all times. However, those are the real men, women often do not go after. Many women would choose a fake prince charming over an honest man till they get to know where they went wrong.

:lajawab:

Some women target the man to fill the void of their own insecurities. Dude, I changed my post by the way. :slight_smile:

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^ Well said! - if you are not happy yourself - there is "no" man that is going to fill that void

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I would say women exactly know what they want BUT they get carried away very easily and very often.
Reason: we call it stupidity they call it emotion.
But infact its influence, women are very vulnerable to that. There is an old saying "women love what they hear".
So unwise women may find them selves ,very often, in a position "That's now it sounded like"

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Having said that women can destroy a perfectly beautiful life just because they cant stop listening to there mom/sis or friends.

Well said

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bari baat hy bahi, kia avatar hy

Very well said. I wish I could express myself as good as you just did.

I can say this with confidence though, All husbands will go to heaven because of their wives(just my opinion and hope)....for that I thank and salute all those wives out there.

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Most women know what they want. Its the men who need a whoopin

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very well said indeed..

i think sometimes we women just get confused to do society and other pressures surrounding us.

we may say we want 2 carrat diamond ring, yet inside we know that in our petite lil fingers, only half a carrat may suit.. but because society demands that whoever has the best is the happiest, we go demanding something we dont really need or want in the first place..

thats just a silly example i gave..

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Adding to that, women would readily accept someone who * says * he would do unimaginable things for them and ends up * doing * almost none at all, as opposed to someone who is honest enough to clearly outline what he would and wouldn't do. In the latter case, the chances of a relationship blossoming are low, as he did not say just the right things. An honest would do stuff for them, but he would that without expecting much in return. He would build a more stable long-term relationship, but that also means that every demand can not be catered to. I think of some men as top fuel dragsters, who can be fast/charming in the beginning, but very unstable and prove horrible in the long run. Others are like family cars (does not always mean that they lack the real spark), who do not appear appealing in the beginning, but are mature, stable and reliable; and prove great partners in the long-run. The trouble is, most women would chose a dragster over a family car.

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^^ Dude, you know what you're doing now right - starting a "why do nice men finish last" argument. :D

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^ hehe.. true

i dont believe nice men finish last. Most of the nice men (family cars) i know are taken... point is, you should always start with something u can afford (a suzuki) and work ur way up (dragster).. kidding

people who are honest from the beginning, will stick by you in the long run and most likely end up fulfilling ur womanly demands once they do have the means.. honest men and women are a rarity these days.. so when u do meet one, grab them and dont let go :)

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Straight-up.... umm, no. I don't want it to go that way. I am talking about strong, principled men, who are not necessarily the nicest men, as they don't try to keep everyone happy. There's is a fine line between them that we should recognize. The traditional definition of a nice man is perhaps a spineless man who does not hold on to any true objective reality for too long, as he would compromise over principles to keep someone happy at some time. A principled man would be a confident man with leadership qualities, have a stronger persona than any of those so called 'bad boys', and yet be nice to the people around them.

^ Okay then in this case, you should know, women love those kind of men and do go for them.