diwana
April 24, 2014, 4:49am
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Re: Do philosophical theories
Please read below the whole chain of thread how the discussion went in to homosexuality.
It was OP, who talked about that thread knowing you bring science for your defense, but have no clue of simple scientific evidence and biology. LEt alone genetics.
Then you continued on yourself in that discussion.
Common in both evolution and homosexuality is lack of scientific evidence but there are unfortunately people who believe there is something in scince which cam make both false ideas appear correct.
As I said earlier in this thread: This thread could go any direction since Op had a broad question.
bella88:
You sure you wanna go there? please bring credible argument points.
bella88:
You sure you wanna go there? please bring credible argument points.
You can believe all you want.
But sorry to say you have no idea what you talk about.
What is the difference between you and followers of religious scholars? Seriously?
You follow those who seemingly have some kind of degree on producing ‘objective evidence’ but not always have an objective evidence.
Religious scholars ask people to believe on what is said in scriptures, without claiming they have "objective’ evidence. At least they do not make false claims.
There is no objective evidence of change in species. Its all based on speculations and assumptions.
you can think whatever you want, but it’s obvious from all your posts that you seem to think anyone with opposing views is wrong.
No, I follow what MAKES SENSE. I follow the evidence. I follow what basic common sense would say. I don’t follow anything blindly.
evidence is there for those that are willing to accept it. People will always find reasons to not accept it for the sake of their faith or other firmly held ideologies. i can give you all the information in the world that supports evolution, but you will disregard all of that. so really, dont ask for evidence when you have no intention of looking at it.
the post you quoted me in was a response to rainydays who felt the need to attack me personally and going completely off topic, and my response was for his post which attacked me. And please don’t tell me what i should be posting when you cant even read the post above my post.
Is it not this the essence of the discussion where people consider other person wrong if other person has opposite view?
Let me break it to you:
Religious people also follow WHAT MAKES SENSE to them.
Word ‘Evidence’ is subjective.
For people who follow religion scriptures, scriptures make sense to them and they feel they have ‘evidence’ too.
People who follow scientific literature blindly are not different from those who follow religious scriptures.
No one can say who is right and who is wrong.
You think there is enough evidence for believing on so called evolution, (but forget about religious people), even scientific people question this “theory”.
My suggestion again: Read the topic carefully.
Have at least basic knowledge of genetics and biology etc. before blindly follow so called scientists with any degrees.
You could not even answer simple question on anatomy of man and woman in other thread, let alone trying to make a conversation on very deep concepts on genetics and biology.
Fair enough, and I have no arguments against someone who holds his religious beliefs. But the issue is where people try to make it look like the science is supporting their beliefs when it’s clearly not.
I didn’t argue with this point. Yes, if you hold your religious scriptures as the truth then thats all the evidence you need. I am not trying to disrespect your or anyones religious scriptures .
here is where I disagree. People who follow science are not doing it out of fear of going to hell or for any sort of punishment. don’t most religous people follow their religion to get to Heaven and avoid hell? Science is challenged and is always developing. religion is not usually challenged and when it is, its not well tolerated.
But I have been called wrong many times simply because my views oppose yours and others here
if something is called theory doesn’t mean it’s just a guess. It’s a well-supported and documented explanation for observations. Science does not claim to be the “supreme Truth” like religious scriptures do. Science is modest that way. overwhelming majority of scientists, especially biologists and the ones who study life sciences, do accept evolution. Some are skeptical about certain mechanisms but in general, they all accept evolution. Scientists are always skeptical and always question every theory, and area always open to other possibilities. they are not closed minded, and are open to challenges and new discoveries. something very different from religious folks.
Is there a reason why you always seem post in such a derogatory tone with me? If you disagree, does it mean my knowledge is less?? You seem to ignore ALOT evidence given by scientists, geneticist, biologists yet you think i am the one without knowledge?
LOL are you serious? You lost that argument so badly, you couldn’t give me one solid argument in favor of your claims. anatomy of male female is not the reason people have sex, maybe thats your opinion but its not a fact. i find it so interesting how you defied all the modern psychiatrists, medical organization made of researchers and doctors, geneticists and biologists. please educate yourself before making such silly claims that have no basis. and most importantly, stop telling others they need to educate themselves, when you lack so much of it yourself.
I have alot of respect for those who firmly believe in their faith no matter what it is. To each his own. I could care less who believes in creationism vs evolution. But to call something a ‘joke’ and claim there is no evidence when there is, is not very mature. And you have constantly told me how i lack basic knowledge in every thread where you argued with me which I find very derogatory. The only time I have said that to your posts has been in retaliation after you said it. It’s really hard to argue with someone when they think the other person is beneath them intellectually.
You can believe all you want.
But sorry to say you have no idea what you talk about.
What is the difference between you and followers of religious scholars? Seriously?
You follow those who seemingly have some kind of degree on producing ‘objective evidence’ but not always have an objective evidence.
Religious scholars ask people to believe on what is said in scriptures, without claiming they have "objective’ evidence. At least they do not make false claims.
There is no objective evidence of change in species. Its all based on speculations and assumptions.
you can think whatever you want, but it’s obvious from all your posts that you seem to think anyone with opposing views is wrong.
No, I follow what MAKES SENSE. I follow the evidence. I follow what basic common sense would say. I don’t follow anything blindly.
evidence is there for those that are willing to accept it. People will always find reasons to not accept it for the sake of their faith or other firmly held ideologies. i can give you all the information in the world that supports evolution, but you will disregard all of that. so really, dont ask for evidence when you have no intention of looking at it.
the post you quoted me in was a response to rainydays who felt the need to attack me personally and going completely off topic, and my response was for his post which attacked me. And please don’t tell me what i should be posting when you cant even read the post above my post.
Is it not this the essence of the discussion where people consider other person wrong if other person has opposite view?
Let me break it to you:
Religious people also follow WHAT MAKES SENSE to them.
Word ‘Evidence’ is subjective.
For people who follow religion scriptures, scriptures make sense to them and they feel they have ‘evidence’ too.
People who follow scientific literature blindly are not different from those who follow religious scriptures.
No one can say who is right and who is wrong.
You think there is enough evidence for believing on so called evolution, (but forget about religious people), even scientific people question this “theory”.
My suggestion again: Read the topic carefully.
Have at least basic knowledge of genetics and biology etc. before blindly follow so called scientists with any degrees.
You could not even answer simple question on anatomy of man and woman in other thread, let alone trying to make a conversation on very deep concepts on genetics and biology.
diwana why do you bring up posts from all different threads in one?? you bring homosexuality here ( this thread was talking about evolution), then you bring this topic in the cannibal thread and now you bring posts from anther thread on here about mathematics? what are you trying to prove?
As to other thread: You made comment on being omnivorous and said you ate animal/meat,.. but here said animals cannot consent. Hence I asked you question in that thread based on your statement here.
You kept avoiding the question “worrying” about the thread being derailed.
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