In a study done at the University of California, Davis, researchers found dog saliva killed E. coli and Streptococcus canis, another harmful bacteria. The scientists concluded that when mother dogs licked their nipples it helped keep puppies free from disease, and that dogs licking their own wounds accomplished the same goal.
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Actually Junior, I've been posting here for a year and 1/2 and have had more than my share of people disrespecting my beliefs. I'm sorry if you find it disrespectful for someone to point out the fact that most hadiths are based on the culture of the time and place. Find me a hadith that speaks of how one spends a long winter night in the tundra. Why does it not talk about washing your hands in the snow instead of with sand? Sand does not exist everywhere man exits. Matter of fact, it doesn't exist in most places man lives.
Loving dogs is not mutually exclusive to having healthy, loving relationships with humans. Muslims do not own the market on companionship with friends, parents, family and community.
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Before i say anything ,Please refrain your self from addressing as me 'Junior'. I might be younger than you, but age is determined by the mentality level not by height or age or amount of time you have spent on gupshup. You might have been posting for a year and half or might and it might mean something to some people, to me it doenst. You have had your share of people direspecting my your beleifs, whose fault is that mine or the 90% majority of the people who disagree with your religion. How can you expect not to be touched, when more than the majority of the people on this site disagree with what you have to say ? as far as living in tundra and washing your hands from sand and all... all i have to say to you is, you wont understand our religion when you are not even a part of it. You took washging hands from sand in literal means. If you think that our book our is limited to words then its your false thinking. There is not even one thing that is not answered in holy quran and thats what we believe. If you come with me i might be able to take you to a scholar who can explain you better. For us yes we take as a pride that every question answer is given in quran or in hadiath. Indeed it is for us to believe and hence we are called muslims. You dont have to to believe in it no pressure whats so ever.
-Salman
From the medical point of view, which is our main concern here, the hazards to human health and life from keeping and playing with dogs are not to be ignored. Many people have paid a high price for their ignorance, as the tapeworm carried by dogs is a cause of chronic disease, sometimes resulting in death.
This worm is found in man, in cattle, and in pigs. But it is found in fully developed form only in dogs, wolves and rarely in cats. These worms differ from others in that they are minute and invisible, consequently, they were not discovered until very recently.
I wonder who is right and who is wrong…
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Before i say anything ,Please refrain your self from addressing as me 'Junior'. I might be younger than you, but age is determined by the mentality level not by height or age. You might have been posting for a year and half or might and it might mean something to some people, to me it doenst. You have had your share of people direspecting my your beleifs, whose fault is that mine or the 90% majority of the people who disagree with your religion. How can you expect not to be touched, when more than the majority of the people on this site disagree with what you have to say ? as far as living in tundra and washing your hands from sand and all... all i have to say to you is, you wont understand our religion when you are not even a part of it. You took washging hands from sand in literal means. If you think that our book our is limited to words then its your false thinking. There is not even one thing that is not answered in holy quran and thats what we believe. If you come with me i might be able to take you to a scholar who can explain you better. For us yes we take as a pride that every question answer is given in quran or in hadiath. Indeed it is for us to believe and hence we are called muslims. You dont have to to believe in it no pressure whats so ever.
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No disrespect meant by "Junior" label. I actually agree with you that mentality level is the determining factor. 98% majority of people in the US disagree with your religion so how can you expect not to be touched when more than the majority in the country you live disagree with what you have to say?
Why is the sand not be taken literally but things like "kill all the black dogs" are? It is a slippery slope when you demand literal translation for some things but for those that cannot be explained figurative translation will do. By saying I am not Muslim so I can't understand is a cop out. To me that means that I think from a rational, unbiased view and not accept something because a scholar says it is so. BTW, there are millions and millions of Muslims that do not believe that the culturally based hadiths represent the word of God, so I am not alone in that opinion.
Some dogs cant distinguish from its own droppings from food and spends some of its time licking its own private parts, also someone mentioned in an earlier thread about tape worm, wich can cause brain damage and/or blindness in young children, ... considering all of the above, personally the bad points out-weigh the good,so a dog is one pet I dont want in my house.
btw ...they bite too.
Excellent .. just as I thought, you have absolutely NO CLUE as to what these hadith are saying.. You think if a dog donkey or a woman passes in front of you while you’re praying your prayers are invalidated.. 
I’m sorry to disappoint you, but these hadiths are actually TOTALLY CONTRADICTING the view that women are ‘equal’ to dogs:
Here are the hadiths as compiled by Bukhari:
Volume 1, Book 9, Number 490:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, “Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people).” I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him."
Do you get it now??? read again if you can’t..
Aisha is challenging the ‘ruling’ that is being mentioned to her.. she has caught a lie being passed and has rose up to confront it. ‘they’ being someone, told her that prayer is annulled by a dog, donkey and a woman passing in front (what a ridiculous thing to even think about) and Aisha stomped out the lie and provided the evidence that the Prophet had no problem praying while she was between him and the Qibla.
The same is mentioned in another hadith:
Volume 1, Book 9, Number 493:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The things which annual prayer were mentioned before me (and those were): a dog, a donkey and a woman. I said, “You have compared us (women) to donkeys and dogs. By Allah! I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in (my) bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I disliked to sit and trouble the Prophet. So, I would slip away by the side of his feet.”
**Now do you get it??? the statement was false, period and Aisha caught the lie and corrected it. **
So let’s see. You had no idea what these hadith meant, you claim women are the same as dogs when it comes to nullifying prayers, and then you doubt MY imaan???
Man, you people are funny. I am a Muslim and I love dogs. I grew up in Pakistan where crazy notions like some mentioned in this thread about dogs prevented my parents from allowing me to have a dog.
Listen, I don't care what some ancient wrote about touching a dog or having it inside the house or not. Use common sense. A dog is not a human. People who treat them like humans are just as crazy as people who think of them as some product for the enjoyment of humans.
A dog is a magnificent animal and a creation of God. They are higly intelligent and blessed with some amazing capabilities. The unconditional love, trust and loyalty of a dog puts humans to shame. If properly fed, groomed and taken care of, a dog can be a wonderful companion. Just my 2 cents.
Since when you have the authority to give the tafseer for Bukhari Shareef ?You don’t even consider Bukhari Shareef, why are you even daring to translate it for me. For your information what you have translated from your mind is only so wrong and limited but indeed pathetic. Next time if i have to translate something from Hadiath I will go to a scholar not to a person who denies it in the first place. Take a chill pill and stop translating Bukhari shareef. If you can not understand simple Hadiath may Allah s.w.t Help you.
-Salman
I will also add this to your name PA
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PS. The intellect of man is limited and as such, he will not always be able to comprehend the wisdom of divine law. Sometimes, man is unable to understand the logics of Shari’ah law.
He is obliged to accept it whether it appeals to his intellect or not.
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If none of you will find it in your hearts to discuss an issue in civility and respect, especially in this Holy Month, then this thread is better closed. This is a general warning to everyone, no one in particular, but to ALL participants. Watch your tone and watch the manner in which you respond to others or this thread will be closed without any warnings offered. I am not interested in hearing any complaints in public. Drop me a pm and I will most happily discuss it with you in detail via pm. Keep your tone respectful.
--Samarra.
And the point of the contraversy was?
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And the point of the contraversy was?
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whatever it was.. its gone now :)
Samarra is right. Instead of spending time arguing with each other, lets utilize this blessed month to wash our sins.
<~~~~In total agreement.
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If none of you will find it in your hearts to discuss an issue in civility and respect, especially in this Holy Month, then this thread is better closed. This is a general warning to everyone, no one in particular, but to ALL participants. Watch your tone and watch the manner in which you respond to others or this thread will be closed without any warnings offered. I am not interested in hearing any complaints in public. Drop me a pm and I will most happily discuss it with you in detail via pm. **Keep your tone respectful*.
--Samarra.
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Not to sound or be uppity. Forgive me for asking you
What exactly was uncivil about the posts?
Frankly I found the posts informatiive and educational and inoffensive.
And what was it that we were agruing?
^ Check your pm.
I dont care what the Mollahs or the Maulanas say, a dog is an extremely loyal and lovable pet to have. I have had a dog for 7 years, and I had to go through alot of trouble convincing my folks and other relatives to keep it. I was given lectures on how its 'paleet' and all, but the fact of the matter is, hes the guardian of the house, and each time I come home, he greets me like he hasnt seen me for a month. As for them being paleet, in its 7 year life he hasnt made a mess, whereas our halaal janwars, like baqras and murghis turn every place of the house into their lovable toilet. The way the dog greets you is more susceptible to the heart of the master than the hate mongering fatwas our maulanas and molvis give against this creature.
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Some dogs cant distinguish from its own droppings from food and spends some of its time licking its own private parts, also someone mentioned in an earlier thread about tape worm, wich can cause brain damage and/or blindness in young children, ... considering all of the above, personally the bad points out-weigh the good,so a dog is one pet I dont want in my house.
btw ...they bite too.
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Goats and Sheeps do that too? They can get tape worms too, even humans can. Does that make them haraam too?
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spock...
well you cant eat have dog for supper, like a goat or sheep.
when I was in the motherland we too had a dog only for gaurding purposes, it was kept outside, and at a distance ,and was not treated like something special, it wasnt mistreated either.
personally I dont need to be told by a molvi that a dog is a dirty animal, its something I came to a conclusion myself,
For you, your dog maybe your best pet freind, and I dont have anything against you. personally myself on the other hand would rather have a goldfish or a rabbit.
Mullah’s and their fatwas aside for a moment…
I could understand the gora gustaakh-e-rasool idiot having a problem with the words and orders of Rasoolullah (sallallaho alaihe wassallam) because he’s a kaafir but those of you who claim to be Muslims and at the same time disregard words of the Prophet (sallallaho alaihe wassallam) are nothing but HYPOCRITES. Idiots, laanat hai tum par.
"No, by they Sustainer, they have not believed until they make thee (Muhammad) the arbiter of their disputes, and then do not find any grievance against thy decision, but submit with full submission." (4:65)
And people who keeps dogs no matter how clean they are their houses STINK of ****