Do I have a right?

Lets assume that one of my close friends is doing something haram, do I have a right to tell him/her to stop? I mean should I bring religion up and get involved in the situation so to speak.

Yes Allah is the final judge, but are we not told to correct those that may be doing wrong?

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you can tell her whats right and wrong; once she knows, thats where your shar'i responsibility stops, even if they decide to carry on.

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but it is our responsibility to inform the other person right?

And then we have the whole "you're no angel how dare you give me advice" debate. I think regardless of anything , he/she still has a duty to inform others. Although yes it would make a lot of sense to follow rules yourself before you go off and ask others to do the same.

I need somebody who believes otherwise.My mental Islam storage needs info.

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MQ kissing on the cheek is not haram. Its a sign of affection.

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We're not talking about kissing here. Go back to the life thread.tsk.

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MQ, you have all the rights in the world to tell your friend that something that he/she is doing is Haram. I tell it to my friends all the time, but that doesn’t stop them from ding it. I join in too, just to show that even though I don’t approve of what they are doing, but out of respect and Yaari, I do it.

Today after work, Matsui has asked me to join him for a drink after work. I have told him that it is Haram.

Matsui, it is Haram. Sudhar Ja.

:jhanda:

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^^ :tauba tauba: it's people like you my mother warned me about.

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sateynaas.

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There seem to be so many activities where there is no consensus as to whether it is haram. So depending on what it is, it might just be your interpretation of its haramness. Is it eating shellfish, listening to music, using toilet paper instead of sand, greeting a non-Muslim (w/o pushing him off the sidewalk), having a dog in the house, eating with utensils, or what?

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Verizon, It’s people like Matsui that Qaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah Rehmat-olla Elaih warned us about. I don’t think your mother will be worried about you hanging out with me.

:jhanda:

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Yes sir. as long as you are a buffer betwen Matsui and myself, My mom will be ok.

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seminole -- I meant that people often say that religion is between them and Allah. But when we have so clearly been told to inform those that might be doing wrong, then why cant we? I mean if a person is doing something haram , he/she can always say "well hey you have nothing to do with me, Allah knows me , let Allah judge."

I dont think that telling a person hala/haram is wrong. In fact I dont understand why I cant do so. Why do people think that its my "holier than thou" attitude? Shouldnt we just accept or look into matters.

Actually I wanted to discuss to what extent religion is just between a person and Allah. And when another person is allowed to actually interfere.

AArghh interpretations again!

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But, MQ, you are most likely only giving them your interpretation of what is haram. Some things obviously displease God, but many of the things I see posted here seem to be an individual's interpretion, some internet mullah's interpretation or a 1000-year old interpretation that doesn't necessarily mean it's right for that person or their relationship with God. For instance, I don't see how so many Muslims put hadith on par with God's word and that would negate 85% on the inconsequential activities many consider haram.

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If we had our own interpretations I dont see how we could be one Ummah. Its not my interpretation that I give people, but I do actually give them references usually from the Quran. And yes sometimes just some common sense.

We're given facts whether we believe them how we want to or how we should - thats up to us.

Again anything anybody tells us, we will look into the issue if we wish to make sure we're not being misled.

its not about interpreations this time- well not completely - but more so of why we cant tell a person he/she might be doing something "wrong." But this is wrong as in haram.

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MQ, I think you should save them. And the only way to save them is to kill them. baat khatam..khana hazam. :nuch:

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matsui go back to your thread in general. Mera thread kharab mut karo.:mad:

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Does ummah mean Borg? Does it imply mean that every person pray at the same time, in same direction with the same clean feet or does is it meant as a more wholistic 'brotherhood' for all of mankind, working together and not against each other?

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The trouble is, no one is an angel, so if they’re expecting a farishta to come and give them some personal advise, they’ll be waiting forever. If your advise is against thier personal and educated interpretation, it doesnt matter. All they have to do is tell you as such, and that should be the end of that. No big deal. But yeah, it still makes more sense to practise yourself before giving out advise. Its more effective that way.

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yea MQ its your right to tell them to stop, its upto them if they do/dont...
plus if theyr your close friend then i dont think they should mind,, arguments happen among close friends all the time,, so no biggie..

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Its a personal choice, actually, and depends on your character and personality.

Some people take "Am'r bil-ma'rouf wa nahi an-il-munkir" very seriously and are constantly toking and interrupting other people. Many times very rudely, because they think only they are right and the other person must be ignorant. This defeats the whole purpose as all they do is infuriate their audience and there is no chance of the message getting across.

As long as you understand that you may not know all the right answers, but still believe you know enough to be able to provide a polite suggestion to the other person, just feel free. If the other person is your friend, he/she may actually appreciate it. Do remember that some people don't like unsolicited advice and IMO you should respect that. You will find out soon enough.