Divorce or no?

Hi everyone,

I really need some advise.

I met someone online back in 2009. I was going through some depression issues at the time so he became a means of escape from my depression for me. I later found out that he had been flirting with sooooo many other girls online but I forgave him after all the drama. He decided to study abroad and I paid his fees for him. I left the country to meet him for a week without telling anyone about it. I lied to my parents and borrowed money from them for my fees but used it for my travel expenses. Later that year we decided to marry. Everyone told me that I was being stupid but I fought with my parents. I stopped talking to them because they were against my marrying this guy. I did not speak to them for over six months until they finally gave in. We went to Pakistan for our wedding and his family treated me horribly. He wouldn’t do anything without his mom’s permission. Without going into details I realized my mistake of marrying him immediately but I still loved him. I came back and told my parents and they said that once he came here it was him I would have to live with and not his family. They were sure that he would change so I applied for his sponsorship. During that time we had many fights. He never sent me a single gift because he didn’t have money. He constantly asked me for financial assistance. His mother constantly said crap to me every time I called her so I stopped calling her which caused more fights between us. I swore at his mother and sister. I hacked his facebook account when he told me that he had another girlfriend. I swore at him. I did all the crazy psychotic things but never let go. Things always seemed to get better. There were times when I would make up my mind to end it and move on but he would keep calling and apolozing and I would eventually give in.

Then he came here. I bought a condo for him. I bought all new furniture/appliances. My dad helped him get a driver’s license a week after his arrival here. I gave him my car. He found a job three weeks after coming here. He lied on his resume, gave false references. I told him not to but he told me that he knew what he was doing. He would drop me at work in the mornings and take my car to work. He didn’t pay a penny in the first month. His mum had called two weeks after his arrival here asking for money for eye surgery so he had to send her money. I swore at his mom and called her a greedy *****. I swore at him too. Second month he gave me $400. He had to send money to his mum and he paid her to get him a cricket kit. He paid $380 the third month. Money he was paying was all he gave. He didn’t buy groceries, paid for gas, or paid for anything when we went out. We had a lot of fights over it. I tried to hide it all from my parents but he would call them after every one of our fights to complain. I was a ***** too. I would fight with him over small things. I would swear at his mom when he wouldn’t give money. I would tell him to **** off.

Fast forward 3.5 months after he arrived here, I was short mortgage one month. He didn’t give me money. I had paid his first credit card bill but now he had nothing in his account. I didn’t tell him and took $600 out of his credit card. I used it towards my mortgage. I was going to pay it off from my next paycheck. He found out and we had another fight. He sent msgs to his sister telling her that he was going to end this marriage because I was aggressive. He told everyone that I stole money from him. I told him to get out of my house. I was so angry at him that I told him to get the hell out. He packed his bags and left. I tried looking for him that night after I calmed down. He had disappeared. I don’t know where he went. I went to his work, called him and texted him a million times, asked his two friends who I knew here but couldn’t find him. Then he called me to meet with him at the local mall. I went there. We had another fight. He asked me what I wanted to do now and I told him that he should tell me what he wanted as he was the one who had disappeared. He said that I was immature. We had another fight. I desperately tried to find him again after he left but nothing happened. He created a new facebook account. He posted photo online with some girl. I called him about it and he told me that she called him brother. I told him that no married man would ever take a photo with another girl who he had met 2 months ago at work while half hugging her. We had another fight. I hired a private investigator to find him. I went to his house to talk to him. He hid and didn’t come out of the bedroom. His roommate told me that he wasn’t home. I left and messaged him and told him that I would keep coming until he spoke with me. He sent the police to my house for harassment. I am devastated now. I have hired a lawyer and contacted immigration. I have too much weight in the past month. I feel like I am going through depression again. I have bitter feelings towards him but at the same time I am having trouble letting go. Sometimes I feel that I am also the bad one so maybe we both deserved each other. Sometimes I feel that maybe we could still work things out. I spoke to an imam at the local mosque and he said that divorce should be the last resort after all attempts at reconciliation fail. We didn’t try to reconciliate though. He would make me run around in circles like an idiot and when I would be too angry to talk to him he would attempt to sort things out. That would result in us fighting. We are at a point where my entire family hates him because he harassed them so much. He kept calling them and complaining. Am I really better off letting him go and letting this marriage end after 3.5 months of living together? I feel like we haven’t even tried. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Have you thought about counselling? I think you need urgent help..

There is so much there for you to get your head around.. You need someone to help you calm down and look at things** rationally**.. then you can make a decision..

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Undecided: You know what? … You got Sc*** by a con and that happens when people have low esteem of themselves and let others play with their emotion, illusive love, as well as life. In process, victims also make life of people who care for them miserable.

Selfish cons (and there are many all over the world, especially Pakistan) use such people (like you) to grow in their life and make their life easy (obviously, making life of people like you miserable).

I think you should start divorcing process and make sure he is thrown back to Pakistan (if you can do that and it is not too late yet). If you won’t do that, throw him out of your life, then do not complain when after few years, when this thug would establish himself, he would throw you out of his life like used dirty paper handkerchief.

These people throw people like you out of their life when they are in no need of you (after milked you and your resources as much as they can), because people like you, if they stay in their lfie, remind them of their past even when they used their victim (like you) to achieve their better present.

^^ well said. I agree!

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Yes I know he used me. He complains to everyone about how I stole $600 from him when I paid all his fees (tuition, immigration, landing, ticket, medical). I kept him with me for 3.5 months for $780 that he gave and $600 that I took. That covered his living, food, travel and all other expenses. I also helped him financially many times when he was in Pakistan.

At the same time, I am not the innocent victim. Everyone told me that he was using me. I knew too many things about him from before. His flirting with other girls online (even after we were married he used to flirt online on facebook). His habit of always asking me for money. I knew he was using me for money but I kept sending it. I knew what he was doing but I always thought that we would be able to make things work. I always thought that once he came here and his life changed he would want to make things work. I fought with my parents over this guy. They begged me not to ruin my life but I didn’t listen. Now they are telling me that they will stand by me no matter what. If the marriage needs to end then they will support me. Those are the people I fought with for a man who sent police to my house.

I feel that I deserve him. I deserve everything that happened because in a way I am responsible. I brought it upon myself. Problem I am having is letting go. It is like I am obsessed. I have been trying for a month and I can’t seem to just let go. I keep coming up with excuses in my mind for why I should try to make this marriage work. He lives so close to me. He is only 10 minutes drive away. I get a urge to go to his house to talk about things. I have become a social recluse. I don’t even see my family anymore who only live a short distance away. I have stopped talking to all my friends. I have stopped going out. If I ever talk to anyone I start talking about him. Even now, I am at work thinking about him. I am desperate to get away somehow. I have applied to so many internal postings in different provinces. I applied for many other jobs too. Everyone tells me that I am stupid for thinking to leave my job. I am trying to sell the house even though I’m being told by everyone to wait till spring to get a good price. I feel like if I live here much longer I will go completely crazy. I wish there was such a thing as memory erasers.

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Dont blame yourself. Its bad boy allure. Some women even pursue and marry criminals and inmates. He couldve been worse.

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You need to forgive yourself for the mistakes that you made first and foremost. It seems like you are, in a way, punishing yourself. There needs to be a line drawn.

If you were foolish, fine......you were. But right now you are not.

Counselling is a good idea. See if the imam that you spoke to will offer such services. Reach out to your husband and see if he wishes to pursue this avenue. If he declines then will know that you need to find your way on your own.

Divorce him and contact immigration
Throw him out of your life n country as soon as possible....
N if u forgive him... then nobody can help u
U re helpless case...
dont blame yourself... do something!

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No-one deserves to be treated like this..

I think you need somone neutral like a counsellor to help you deal with all those conflicting feelings and give you sound unbiased advice..

I get the feeling you rushed into marrying the guy because you were unhappy when really you should have resolved those issues first.. Piling on more stress is making you behave in a way you normally wouldn't and you need to take a step back from all this and try and clear your head.. As you're not living with him you can think about divorce or whether to give things another go after you've gotten yourself back on track..

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Undecided: No one is saying that you do not deserve what you got, because you wanted to get exploited, and that is what you are getting from him.

Fact is that, he does not look an idiot or fool. He is opportunist, conman, and brutal in fulfilling his desire to achieve good things in life. So he does not deserve someone like you. After achieving what he could achieve from you, he deserves and would find someone, a better partner at appropriate time who he may ‘give’ to increase his own ego and respect, and not ‘take’ that would keep making him feel indebted, hurting his ego and self-respect.

Obviously, you would argue why he should not keep you?

Well, question is that, why he should keep you?

Keeping you would mean, remembering his past and knowing that he got what he has in present after using you as foot-stool. But, once he ditches and forget you, he can come out of indebtedness and guilt feelings (these types of people, lose their guilt feeling quickly).

On the other hand, it is good for him in other ways too. Once he ditches you, he could find someone else to exploit and use them as toilet paper again. This way of progressing in life is fair game for such people. People like you waiting to get exploited encourage them, as there are many like you in this world, waiting for exploitation … One word of ‘LOVE’ and they become ‘DUMB, DUFF and ripe fruit ready for EXPLOITATION’.

Anyhow: If you have any sense, you should consider your experience as bad dream. Get rid of him from your life as soon as possible, because if you would not, with time, he would ditch you anyhow. Stop him on track and make sure he does not harm others like you (get police case on him, and if he has not already got immigration, get him kicked back to Pakistan … the land of pure where many are impure). Believe me, you would not lose anything, rather would gain if you would find someone better in life who would not need you to progress himself in life.

[Note: Actually, I know someone who tried to do same with someone in UK (an unfortunate girl in my neighbourhood). She divorced him before he could come, get British immigration, and establish himself in UK. His name was Umar from Pindi, done medicine from China, became very abusive to her after marriage, has few medical doctors in family, father is also specialist doctor, father worked in army, have notorious and greedy mother. I hope it is not him, as he also try to fish his victims from internet and face books].

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Well one rotten fish brings a bad name to all others. I would request to stop pointing out Pakistan as these characters are commonly found in the 3rd world and this is why it is called a 3rd world.

OP,the best thing would be to get counselling on this matter and try to socialize with other people as much as possible to get away from him.
You said your family is with you so interact with them daily and see your friends. What you have described clearly means that it is better to end this marriage and focus on your future life.

Bad experiences happen, move on and don't lose hope. You had a life before him and you will still have a life after him and it will be much better.

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I think you have some issues you need to sort out personally before you allow anyone to come into your life.

You have a temper problem. Yeah, what happened is wrong but the mistakes you've made have been out of blind anger and irrationality. Learn to calm down and not make hasty decisions - you would NEVER have ended up with him if you knew how to control yourself. Pray, get counseling, etc. But stop making blind decisions.

Swearing, cursing and not being able to communicate respectfully and maturely are bad bad bad signs. The way you deal with people says a lot about who you are as a person and you should NEVER stoop so low that you start cursing your spouse's mother and sisters.

Yes, you have been used. But now what? Will you continue to be used or are you willing to fix this? Fixing doesn't mean fixing this marriage because I believe its beyond repair. You have no respect for this man and have a lot of bitterness/resentment towards him. Sure, you love him on some level but that love goes out the window when you have to keep paying his bills. So are you willing to fix your life?

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First of all, know that this entire relationship was based on** need** and** greed*. At the time of depression, you just needed something to get you away from reality, and at the same time this guy wanted to marry you for a more luxurious lifestyle by moving to a western country. These kinds of guys sit online and trap multiple girls at the same time. Maybe because these punks get can't girls in real life. This is an incredibly fake world, and victims who are depressed or lonely are easy targets for such people. Now he's going to get his citizenship, dump you, use some other girl as a stepping stool, sponsor his family, settle in and finally get married with the third or the fourth girl he uses. He needs a second step stool, you're step number one, so right now he's **over* and** done with you**.

You need to realize you are not obsessed, but actually attached to him. You seem to base your happiness on him - Don't do that. Happiness dwells in the soul - find it. Don't expect people to be a network towards your internal serenity and happiness. This guy is selfish, materialistic and simply trash. This doesn't even sound like a marriage. Such guys don't deserve such strong emotions from gullible girls like yourself.** Stop** calling him because it only makes him avoid you more. These kinds of guys are okay with chasing but hate being chased. There's so much more to life than just chasing a guy who doesn't give a damn about you.

The next time he tries to contact you, call the police on him instead. Avoid all conversation and focus on yourself - try to be a better person. I am not being biased here, I understand you've gone through depression phases and whatnot, probably crossing your lines with verbal abuse. You need to realize that** men do not like** abruptive, abusive, confused, clingy women. They look for life partners that are civil, family oriented and feminine. Verbal abuse and all the drama that you create is** not feminine**.

Have some dignity, stand up for yourself, don't let people use you. After divorcing the guy, and calling immigration office, forget everything and focus on replenishing yourself. Pursue your goals [if you don't have any, find one], and strengthen your bond with family. I'm pretty sure your family is disturbed seeing you in this condition. Stick to them, and stop wasting life away. Quit being a confused soul: know what you're doing, why you're doing it and how you'll do it. You need to use this time to fix up and concentrate more on what you want to be - so you could find a** sincere** man worth your emotions.

Divorce or no?

Firstly you need to manage your temper and contr your anger.. Swearing at his family wont help. You were foolish and made a mistake. From what youve wrote its painfully obvious ur marriage will not work. If you have not already done so stop his immigration process to ensure he doesnt get his full stay. Might be wise to clear the $600 you used on his card as it was a payment made on ur mortgage.. So u dont get into any trouble if he decides to play dirty.

Please talk to someone whether u need to break down infront of someone close to u or a counsellor. U deserve happiness dnt let this get to u.! Get urself back up and move forward. He is not worth it! Have some dignity dont go to him call or txt him. This is what he wants u to beg and chase. Kick him where it hurts and have him sent back and do NOT give him or his family anymore money!!!

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No one deserves anyone like him! You made a mistake once, now don't repeat the same mistake again.

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Thanks everyone, I went to see a lawyer last night. My dad and her decided that filing for annulment on the basis of fraud is the best thing to do. I already reported him to immigration and wrote emails and letters to several ministers. Two have replied back so far assuring me that they will investigate. I am still very depressed. My parents have asked me to come live with them for the time being and I am planning on moving in with them soon.

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Wish ya all the best girl..

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Its sad to hear your story... :( I believe its better to apply for the divorce and move on in your life...You are really innocent and emotional.. plz keep your emotions aside and think wisely... Its the important decision of your life, ask your parents too since no one other than them can give you the most sincere advice

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Dear Undecided Girl , I really feel sad about you.

I am sure a better future awaits you.

First of all you need help yourself, Get some medical help to cope with depression.

Its very common problem. People spend a lot of money on physical health but don't care about mental illness.

After you get some treatment , what should be your next step?

How about a therapist ? These people will help you DECIDE , they won't decide it for you.

But they would groom you to the point where you decide by yourself.

Now when we have a stronger , mature and stable girl, then we can take a decision.

For now , just love yourself,

BR,

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if i were you ,i wouldn't pursue any complain against him and forgive him.

believe me, it makes u bigger person and would relieve you.