Division of Sind : New provinces

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there are also other armed militia too. ANP and PPP, both also have armed wings. would you accept that fact too.

in past few decade people of punjab used to think great punjab, single punjab, no one can divide punjab etc. but now it is openly considered for division.

similarly, if you want to safe sind, it needs division. many land lord in interior sind have their own armed militia, that bothers to innocent farmers.

we also witnessed that ZM press conference was violent enough. I dont think, division could shed blood. in fact division will allow more authorities to law enforcement agencies to establish writ of provincial govt.

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any update?

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New provinces: Nationalists see Sindh’s division in MQM’s new bill
****HYDERABAD: The nationalist parties of Sindh seem to have taken an exception to the Muttahida Qaumi Movement’s (MQM) decision to table the 20th Constitutional Amendment Bill in the National Assembly, which they see as a “conspiracy” to divide the province.
The bill, which seeks the creation of new provinces in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Punjab, was introduced on Tuesday.
“The bill was not tabled for the interest of the Hazara and Seraiki people but to pave the way for the division of Sindh,” argued Ayaz Latif Palijo, the president of the Awami Tehreek, in a press statement. He accused the MQM of conspiring against Sindh, the land which gave them shelter, respect and livelihood.
He appealed to all nationalist parties to unite against it. “The people of Sindh will lay siege to the houses of all parliamentarians of the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) if they do not oppose the bill,” he warned. “Any attempt to divide the province will revisit the situation of 1971.”
However, the PPP did not oppose the bill in the assembly despite the clear opposition of Senator Raza Rabbani, the architect of the 18th Amendment.
Dr Qadir Magsi, the chairman of the Sindh Tarraqi Pasand Party, criticised a clause in the bill which states that, “The provincial boundaries are not sacrosanct and kept changing in the Indo-Pak subcontinent since 1562.”
Magsi thought that the sanctity of the borders can only be understood by the natives of the land. “This bill is a precursor to the MQM slicing Liaquatpur off from Sindh,” he declared.
He was also suspicious about the MQM’s professed stance on provincial autonomy in light of the Pakistan Resolution of 1940. “Through this bill, the MQM wants a strong centre which can make or break the provinces.” Magsi said that the “criminal” silence adopted by the PPP on these issues proves that the conspiracy for dividing Sindh was finalised.
While, Syed Jalal Mehmood Shah, president of the Sindh United Party and the convener of Sindh Progressive Nationalist Alliance (SPNA), reiterated that Sindh, Balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Bengal joined Pakistan in light of the 1940 Resolution which promised complete autonomy. “It’s an irony that the MQM which opposes administrative districts in Karachi wants an administrative province.”
He said that all the nationalist parties will meet in Karachi on January 21 and will also announce a course of action to resist the bill.
*Published in The Express Tribune, January 19[SUP]th[/SUP], 2012.

*New provinces: Nationalists see Sindh

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The current crisis in Karachi is partly due to mqm supporting creation of seraiki province which the nationalists basically considered a preamble to creating a province in sindh, hence the sindh assembly passed a resolution against creation Of province in sindh which was boycotted by mqm. After that slogans related to Karachi province appeared on the walls of Karachi and later violence started.

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If MQM really supports a separate province, it should come up with clear instance. They are behaving like cowards and opportunists.

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Do you think that they can do something good in Karachi city ,changing into a province .
Karachi is not an island .
And it has a population close to 200 million
Need many things from their agricultural and mineral rich province .

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Personally I don't think Separation a viable option, until and unless people learn to live in co-existence. Yesterday, separation was demanded on the basis of Hindu-Muslim distinction. Today, the separation is being demanded on the basis of Sindhi-Muhajir distinction, tomorrow it will be Bihari-Non Bihari , Shia-Sunni, etc distinctions. There is no end to this division by division issue.

Yes Karachi & Other parts of the Sindh are necessary for each other and until and unless people of other areas are devoid of facilities and opportunity of earning, division of Karachi will create severe problems for both the parts.

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I am advocating a wonderful option in the thread
New Provinces : Bahawalpur, Multan and HazarahIt is not harmful for any province and people can get more control to their respective areas , Sufficient to their requirements and they can know that going for a province shall be beneficial for them or not .

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200 million? GOOD GRIEF!

Mods, please lock and throw away this thread before any pakis back home get any ideas! :hehe:

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PPP hasn't helped matters by sticking a knife into the heart of the LG system.

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So they should not have been part of PPP Govt, instead of being vague on Division of Sindh. Both corrupt and looters accommodated each other at the cost of public welfare.

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khappay khappay Pakistan de khap day.

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:@: Khappay her kisi ko iqtidar khappay... Awam marti rahe.. Govt main Part khappay

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Sorry 20 million

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MQM's interest clearly lies in making Karachi a separate province because of business, financial and trading position and potential. If Sindh ever has to be devided, Karachi shouldn't be left as a single unit or the rest of the Sindh will become a nonentity.

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Coming at from a devil's advocate's point of view, it would also show the stark development gap in sindh and the waderas in sindh would have to deliver sooner than later (like never) as PPP just couldn't give away free jobs in urban sindh.

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MQM-USA leaders announce launch of movement for Southern Sindh province
NEW YORK, May 13 (APP): A group of MQM leaders based here announced their decision on Saturday evening to launch a movement to create a new province in southern Sindh comprising urban areas of the province. The group—comprising former Sindh Assembly members and provincial ministers as well as ex-office-bearers of MQM—expressed lack of confidence in the party’s Rabita Committee, especially its decision to support a move against the creation of a province in Sindh. But they voiced their full confidence in MQM Quaid Altaf Hussain’s leadership.

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:hmmm: nvm

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Those suggestions are not good. In any division Karachi and Hyderabad should not become united but separate units as these are the 2 most populated areas of Sindh. Sindh has a very strong identity and it would be the one province which would resist the most to any change. If Karachi became a separate unit and Sindh divided Allah knows how the MQM would react and treat the people its unit.

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What exactly is "strong identity" which is missing in other parts of the country?
What do you mean by Sindh "resisting" most when people of Sindh themselves want it? Only waderas will resist and make it look like an ethnic issue because Sindh divided in two units will stop their free income from urban areas. This is why they continue to prolong the ridiculous quota system in the province which is not implemented anywhere else in the country.