Re: Disturbing trend: 'Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !'
what really bothers me that not only people cant read urdu, they cant speak it. have you seen our TV now, they dont speak urdu, they speak hindi. For instance, for a song request they say something like this (totally made that up)
to hum sunatay hain, woh pyara pyara gaanaa, jisko sunnay kee khawahish maiN, apnay pyaray haathon say, humaaray hazaaroN chaa'hanay walon nay, pyaaray pyaaray pheghaam likhay. (do it in ameen sayani of Binaca geet mala voice)
cant you just say
ub hum aap ko wo ganaa sunaatay hain jis kay liyay aapnay humain bohut farmaaishaiN bhaijeeN
Re: Disturbing trend: 'Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !'
yea..even our school we had to speak in english @ all times.....& NO urdu..excpet in its period...though urdu subject was an option..& i had taken arabic instead of urdu..:)
Was it in Pakistan or overseas? I am talking about Pakistan and I will hate to see and will strongly condemn if schools in Pakistan make Urdu optional. It should be a mandatory subject from k-12. The rest of the school curriculum should be in English but students should be allowed to speak Urdu in the school. Limiting or kind of banning general conversation in Urdu means you are telling kids that it is not a language we should feel pride in. During the class they should converse in English but outside the class it should be free choice.
Re: Disturbing trend: ‘Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !’
sorry ppl…there are many exist like me who barely able to pass both urdu and english.
i can not even speak either of the languages (since my voice pitch is very low and the frequency is very high )
Re: Disturbing trend: 'Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !'
yea..even our school we had to speak in english @ all times.....& NO urdu..excpet in its period...though urdu subject was an option..& i had taken arabic instead of urdu..:)
Was same for us , we had to pay 20 bucks if been caught speakin urdu !
Re: Disturbing trend: 'Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !'
How many parents here are teaching their kids to read and write urdu? Kids learn English, spanish or french at school anyways but how many parents here are teaching them Urdu as a subject? either at home or sending them to weekend school etc?
Re: Disturbing trend: 'Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !'
I speak to my child (aged 3 years) in Urdu, my husbands speaks with him mostly in English, and now he has started to distinguish between these two languages, he speaks and understands both languages but prefers to use English most of the time(may be bcoz his books and dvd's are in this language).
I have started to teach him Arabic, he knows the alif, ba and now learning names in Arabic, I have also started teaching him writing Arabic alphabats along with writing English.
I'm gonna teach him reading and writing Urdu after the age of seven inshaAllah as I think English and Arabic are most important than Urdu but that'd be a shame if I don't teach him the first language of his mother which is Urdu.
Re: Disturbing trend: 'Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !'
Among young people specially girls in pakistan. Those trying to act cool or wanabe ABCDs (who have genuine reasons) Or portraying crippled sense of superiority by distancing themselves from urdu literate middle class folks...
Regardless of the reasons, I believe, growing up and getting educated in pakistan you need to do extra ordinary effort to not learn urdu. Because urdu is standard subject in pakistani education system. Even the Elite schools like Aitchison or Beaconhouse do teach standard urdu even if students have to apprear for O/A levels SSE etc.
If you would have ever been a student of schools like Convents etc. you would have known better . they teach simple urdu which is much like schools where english is taught , but are urdu medium and english is secondary .
so you must have come across some1 like that .
another thing those who are good readers learn at a faster pace than those who don't
Re: Disturbing trend: ‘Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !’
yeh waqt mairay per bhe aaya tha . my urdu handwriting was ineligible and my teacher had difficulty checking my copies . the worst was i failed in islamiyat once,
once my teacher asked me kia yeh aap ke writing hey ? in front of whole class tu i felt very embarrased . but i learned to write real good ( much better than before).
another thing when you cannot speak good , you cannt write correct gramatically .
Re: Disturbing trend: 'Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !'
If you would have ever been a student of schools like Convents etc. you would have known better . they teach simple urdu which is much like schools where english is taught , but are urdu medium and english is secondary .
so you must have come across some1 like that .
another thing those who are good readers learn at a faster pace than those who don't
My two elder brother went to Aitchison College, Lahore. Which is by any standard is one of the most prestigious schools in pakistan. Their urdu skill are probably better than everage khalid, Naeem or Khurram. Even though only urdu was taught in urdu there and devaan-e-ghalib was part of syllabus in Senior Cambraige(O-level), rest even Islamiat was in english.
I still stand by my opinion.
It is quite difficult to ressist learning urdu, if you go to school in pakistan.
Urdu medium does not help improving your urdu, but surely is big hurdle in learning proper english.
Re: Disturbing trend: 'Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !'
Personally i believe that someone' who's been living in pakistan will still have better Urdu than someone whos lived their life abroad only b/c of the greater exposure they have to it....
What i see here is that many parents will speak Urdu with their children, even if the parents were born and raised in US, because they realize that their children will have so much exposure to English in school, so they want to expose their children to as much Urdu as possible. I've seen this in my family, in my in-laws and my freinds who have children, and even though i knw my urdu isn't so great, at least I'm not ashamed of speaking it with adults...
I'm guessing that parents in pak have the same reasoning when they speak English with their kids? Is there any truth to that or am i simplifying it too much?
Re: Disturbing trend: 'Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !'
excellent topic.
anyone who loses their mother language or appears to be someone that it is beneath them to be learning and speaking their native tongue, is at a complete loss of wisdom.
Urdu is our language. balochi, sindhi, pathan and punjabi, all speak it,
as well as other folks in Pakistan.
there should be a mandatory requirement for all high schools in Pakistan and in private Muslim Pakistani schools abroad to teach grammatically correct Urdu language and also Urdu Literature.
there is no excuse for not learning it.
and that is how, all of us, as older siblings must enable our younger siblings, cousins or nehpews or friends' siblings, to be, in their attitude towards embracing their mother tongue and national language back home, without feeling that it will make them less of a british born or american born second generation Pakistanis.
Re: Disturbing trend: 'Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !'
It's a damn shame that people are losing interests in a very useful link language which enables them to communicate from afghanistan as far east as bangaldesh, as well as nepal and sri lanka - BUT what do you expect? To 90% of Pakistanis Urdu is not a mother tongue and how can they ever be really interested in a language which no longer seems to be needed except for speaking. It wil just be discarded like their mother tongue.
When Pakistanis are taught their mother tongues then they may feel pride on who they really are.
Re: Disturbing trend: 'Mujhey urdu parhni nahi aati !'
My two elder brother went to Aitchison College, Lahore. Which is by any standard is one of the most prestigious schools in pakistan. Their urdu skill are probably better than everage khalid, Naeem or Khurram. Even though only urdu was taught in urdu there and devaan-e-ghalib was part of syllabus in Senior Cambraige(O-level), rest even Islamiat was in english.
I still stand by my opinion.
It is quite difficult to ressist learning urdu, if you go to school in pakistan.
Urdu medium does not help improving your urdu, but surely is big hurdle in learning proper english.
It was not a personal attack and i'm sure your brothers must had urdu as major in cambridge( o-levels). yes even islamiat is in english . i know that too .
being a student , its habitaul to have language skills , but its not essential, that every word you speak is always correct .
yes i moved from an english medium to an urdu medium school when i was in 8th. and there was a hell of difference b/w the languages spoken in both the schools.
I'm guessing that parents in pak have the same reasoning when they speak English with their kids? Is there any truth to that or am i simplifying it too much?
my parents never spoke english with me . i think you are thinking beyond.
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Nahi socha :rotato:
young girls merey saath bhi ziada politely baat nahi karteen 