Disrespectful in laws

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You are currently in the preemptive warrior mode. I coined this term for my cousin and her jaithani who are having a cold war because they each feel they will be persecuted against in the future so they must begin throwing bombs at each other preemptively

.The jaithani feels her mil will heavily favour my cousin because she is the love match while my cousin is the arranged from within the family one. My cousin feels persecuted as the ghar ki murgi who gets scolded by her mil while the jaithani is allowed to be rude because everyone is scared of her leaving her husband (which she has threatened to do).

It's crazy how much their problems are self created from assumptions and idle ponderings. Not every action has a meaning. Not everyone is looking to put someone down. Not every perceived slight needs to be avenged.

Chances are your inlaws don't like you. But so what? You are getting a chance to live with them and show your true self. They could fall in love with you but if you start with an attack because you have various prejudices and unfounded assertions that you are not willing to let go then why should they give you a chance and warm up to you or your parents? For all they know it's your parents who are dictating all the things you are telling your husband that you don't like (the room and the bed etc).

Bonds don't miraculously happen and they have to nurtured. You cannot expect them to spontaneously go from seeing you as an interloper who wants a ton of change before she even moved in to a beloved family member. If you go in with your sword out it'll be dumb to not expect a fight on your hands.

And there comes a time when spouses no matter how loyal and smitten will stop being supportive if they become a middleman of politics so don't expect the current honeymoon period support to tide you through future battles

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I recall OP is depressed. Having been thru that myself, I know that it's very easy to make mountains out of molehills. One becomes super sensitive. If you become aware of this, then you can hopefully redirect your thought process when you feel that negativity creeping in.

Op, it costs time and money to host a nikkah-dinner. I can't imagine why anyone would want to shell out so much money with the intent to hurt/offend the bride's family. They must care about your family and have some regard for them if they decided to host a nikkah dawat cuz they weren't obligated to do so. People show their care in different ways. Some people are comfortable with expressing their affection verbally and others prefer to do it thru gestures such as hosting a dawat or getting gifts etc etc.

Weddings are emotional roller coasters for so many people, not just the bride and the groom. And people cope with that stress in different ways. This year i attended the wedding of an aunti's son and the aunti is uśually so warm and cheeful, but on the wedding...she was uncharacteristically reserved. At first I thought maybe she wasn't happy about the rishta or didn't like her bahu, but as time progressed I felt that my initial impression was wrong. She was just stressed. It's possible that your mil was just stressed and maybe her way of coping is to hang out with those she knows best. Now if you see a stark difference b/w how they treat your family vs all other people in the community, then I think you are right in feeling hurt if they literally and blatantly ignored your family. But by your own admission, you've said that they are not even close to their own siblings and treat others like that do. In that case, try not to overthink it. It would be worse if they only treated your family like this. Maybe they are naturally guarded people who think it's better to keep a distance from people in general as that means less drama. If your mil really didn't like you, she wouldn't bother complimenting you to other people. There are many in-laws who wouldn't even..ghalati se bhi....utter a word of tareef about their bahu. When you move in with your in-laws, they will see a lot more of your family and will become more comfortable with them over time. Unless they have said that your parents are not welcome in their home, it's better if you don't have the negative assumption that your family won't be able to visit .

I know people who feel awkward/shy in telling others that they like them. My own sister is like that. I will tell her that I love her, but she'll never say it back. I will often compliment her, but she won't compliment me. But she's like that toward everyone. She shows her affection in other ways.

Newbee, listen, when you are depressed (and I speak from experience) it is sooo easy to over-analyze everything, to see everything in a negative light, to feel defensive about evert word and action and glance from the other person, to internalize everything so deeply that you lose sight of the bigger picture. And this is what hurts relationships. It's bad enough that people in our culture already have these negative preconceived notions about the bahu and saas and jhetani and nand and every manner of in-laws....it creates a defensive attitude within us before we have even moved into the in-laws' homes and it strains relationships.

They will have to get used to you and you will have to get used to them. It will be an adjustment for everyone. It will require a lot of patience and compromise and tolerance from all parties...especially from you...because your in-laws are older and thus more set in their ways. If abhi se hi you are becoming defensive, then it'll impact your relation with them. You'll have to push yourself to adjust your thinking. As many have said earlier, don't compare yourself to jhetani. In the past your mil has complained about beloved jhetani to you and that means you need to be careful around mil. She is aware of her niece's flaw but blood tends to be thicker than water. So competing with jhetani is futile and emotionally draining. You're going to be living with them so use that to your advantage. Be a good, loving dil and they'll come to appreciate you more even if they don't directly say it to you. Keep the negativity out of your marriage, OP.

You want them to comfortable with you, but it won't happen overnight. It will take time. You say that you have a very close relationship with Allah, MashaAllah...so then make dus to Allah that He soften their hearts toward you and increase their respect for you. He is the controller of the hearts. If you're close to Allah, then don't rush to assume the worst about them, give them the benefit of the doubt. It's easier said than done, but it's what we should do.

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Thank you so much for your replies. I will enter my marriage in sha Allah with an open mind. :)

Someone asked me why they meet a few people better..
reason is that they are office people so it helps with promotions and contacts
Otherwise jaithanis mother.

Jaithani is not a first cousin btw she's a second cousin.
And the things jaithani and her family have done will shock you all.

I remember on her mayon jaithanis brother hit my husband and abused her because he was drunk.. And it was all forgiven. Later jaithani called and abused too. I remember at that time my mother in law wanted to break off everything but it was 3 days before shadi so kept quiet. And shortly after all was well.
I won't compare myself with her but if I don't let her interfere in my life..that's alright right??

Honestly... not really a big issue. If ur husband is coolbeans with ur parents, that's all that matters. Ur parents relationship is with their daughter and her husband. And ur ILs are concerned with their son and his wife. That's as far as it should go, IMO. Too clingy and buddy-buddy and you have problems all the time. If they are cordial/polite to ur family, what more can u ask for?

Also, stop comparing to jethanis experience/life. All that will do is create resentment in ur head. She is different and so are u - maybe she had to go through a bunch of stuff that u don't know about before ILs were cool with her. Let it go. Just focus on the relationships u will be building... from scratch.

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You are entering this marriage already aware of all the drama. Clearly your feelings for your husband outweigh all the bad stuff. Remember that.

Since you agreed to move in to your in-laws house, depending on the situation, there might be times when you will have to allow the jaithani to "interfere" with your life in order to keep peace with your husband/in-laws. This is part of the package that you have chosen to accept. The best thing for you to do is to always make sure that your husband is ok with whatever you're doing when it comes to your jaithani. Anytime you want to do (or not do) something in order to prevent the jaithani from interfering in your life.....make sure you speak to your husband BEFORE it's done and make sure he's willing to defend you if your in-laws get upset. If you can do that...then things will be fine.

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Yes I can do that. Last August my jaithani told my mil things that she claimed I said... My mil was confused if I said it or not but she was upset if I had.. Thank god my husband was with me the whole time I was with jaithani and he told my mil that it's a big fat lie. So I'm sure I'll need to make it clear to her at some point with my husbands support that she keeps me out of her star plus drama

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I've been married a few months and though I love my husband and feel like I made the right decision, it's been tough. There were a lot of hurt feelings over my in-laws behavior at wedding events (similar to how you're describing your in laws being MIA for integral parts) and my parents felt like they were disrespected (I did too, tbh). I've realized that 1) my in laws just don't have the tareeka I grew up with 2) my husband is amazing and understanding and because of that I'm slowly learning to live with it. My marriage wasn't arranged either but I still had no idea at the complete lack of order or manners that my inlaws (MIL in particular) possesses mostly because my husband has always been very organized/well mannered/polite/good with social norms. But you look at the bigger picture. If you're happy with your husband then it's all good. The lack of phone calls/communication between our parents used to bother me a lot (I always thought our parents would be friends) but sometimes it's better that way-- personalities don't match always and sometimes its better they don't talk vs talk and hurt each other's feelings.

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some people are born black, while some are born white . .
as you already explained their nature, expecting them to change would be like, turning black into white.
just tell your mom, your inlaws are black . .
while be content on what your husband is, who fulfils your expectations . .
and groom you kids good, so that they dont take influence from your in laws and get good side from you and your hubby . .

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Soconfused thank you so much. Check inbox please.
Simawaq thank you for the advice.. I've already decided how I'll be upbringing my children. It's the little things we notice later..like a few months back a relative got a job In the city and they didn't want him to come over to stay.. I felt it as being odd to make excuses.. But people are like that I guess. My parents are very helpful to people and I guess that's why my house had alot of barakat.

My values definitely differ from in laws. As they are not religious while my family is quite religious.. Hope I can make my husband pray :)

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Listen Newbee...

Yes, your in-laws are different from you. Differences will always be there. The danger is when someone starts thinking that their personality and way of doing things is "superior" to others. The danger in comparing ourselves to others too much is that it can lead to insecurities or it can even lead to becoming arrogant and we may not even recognize that arrogance or pride within ourselves.

Your in-laws may have done many other naikiyan that you may not be aware of...for which Allah might have rewarded them in this duniya and the next in various ways. Your in-laws might value helping others, but maybe they prefer to help in other ways and not necessarily letting someone stay in their home.

We may think to ourselves that we are very religious and practicing but that is still no guarantee that we will end up in jannat.

And you cannot "make" your husband pray. You can gently encourage him and you should encourage him, but hidayat is ultimately from Allah. If we are not careful in the way we guide others, it may push them further away.

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Very nice advice. So sincere. And.coming from your heart.

Sorry I hit dislike by mistake.

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"My values definitely differ from in laws. As they are not religious while my family is quite religious.. Hope I can make my husband pray"

Maybe here is the problem beneath the surface. You appear to be judging them negatively based on them being not religious. You are contrasting their lack of religiosity with your families religious bent.

To me, that is not healthy. I am not implying your other concerns are not valid. But in my humble opinion, you need to work on accepting their religious beliefs and values. Rather than comparkng and contrasting their beliefs with your families'.

Good luck.

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ew you're so arrogant. stop.

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Sorry i have 20+ years of marriage over you.

1) Why on Earth did you marry your husband if you knew they were not as religious as your family.

2) If it were my daughter i would tell her to stop acting pretty darn arrogant, and you wanted this marriage, so make it work. Stop over sensitising each issue.

3) Before you tout your religious- osity, My own father was not a religious person, his naikiya were amazing. He would give the shirt off his back to those in need. Upon his deathbed, he died reciting the Kalimah again and again. So advice here, please do not think because you hit the floor praying 5 times a day, or observe purdah makes you better.

When my father died, my BIL attended another mosque in another town for Jummah prayer. after the prayer the imam stood up and announced "There is a Brother on his deathbed, who was instrumental in helping our students get these prayer facilities 20 years ago, this same brother donates generously "

My BIL and others then asked the imam who the sick brother was , and that they would like to visit him .

The Imam then disclosed the name. The name was my father's, can you imagine that. After which my BIL informed the Imam of his relationship and that he had passed away two days prior.

So some advice, don't judge..

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aaah… i needed to cheer myself up and came here to read something like this.

feeling much better now

:chai:

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I'm not here to fight with all of you but my every reply seems to trigger some negative response.
I do pray and I'm very grateful for it. I'm not arrogant. I apologize if it felt like I was.

I guess I should keep all of it to myself. Apologies for not being able to explain myself

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I'm glad you all are here to give advice to me with so much experience. I believe you have all misunderstood. Anyway I understand. On these forums I can't give the whole details as it's extremely long. I am the last person on this earth to judge anyone. I am not proud arrogant. And yes I don't think one has to be extremely religious.. However yes I believe there are a few characteristics one should have.. Im sure your dad was a lovely man. May Allah grant him the highest rank.

I'm sorry I am over sensitive about things and I also over think.. It's because of alot of things that have happened and alot if things which I can't mention here. Hope you understand. :)

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Just let them be as long as your rights aren't being violated

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Currently my rights are with me.. Hope it stays this way :)

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Man, I feel sorry for your inlaws