AH’s letter to Blair.
Disband ISI - Altaf Hussain
Altaf Hussain asked the Brits to help disband ISI. Previously MQM had refuted presence of any such letter.
LONDON: The British government has confirmed that the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) leader Altaf Hussain wrote to the then Prime Minister Tony Blair in September 2001, calling for the abolition of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan’s premier spy agency.
According to information released under the Freedom of Information Act, the letter was dated 23 September 2001, signed by Altaf Hussain and delivered to 10 Downing Street by Nirj Deva, who is currently a Member of the European Parliament (MEP) for the Southeast of England.
The British government was assured of MQM’s support in countering terrorism in Pakistan in return for help in achieving “equitable participation in governing the province of Sindh and in disbanding the ISI”. The letter appealed that the “ISI secret agency must be disbanded otherwise the ISI will continue to produce many Osama-bin-Ladens and Talibans in future”.
The MQM letter offered to provide “many demonstrations in Karachi in favour of the international community combating terrorism within five days notice after this agreement is signed, putting hundreds of thousands of people on the streets of Karachi” and “unlimited resources throughout the towns and villages in the province of Sindh and the province of Punjab to some extent, to monitor the activities of fundamentalists and Taliban-led organisations, and also to monitor the activities of Madrasas (religious schools)”.It also promised the UK “to ensure select groups to penetrate Afghanistan in the form of aid workers so as to enhance the Western agencies intelligence information capabilities”.
**In return for these services, the alleged letter asked for “equitable participation in the governance of the province of Sindh and the Federation as partners; genuine, equitable participation in all spheres of life including education, employment, army and administration; local policing consisting of Muhajirs and Sindhis”.
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Britain’s Foreign Office has confirmed “the Prime Minister’s Office received a letter from Mr Altaf Hussain which was passed to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) for a response,” said the Cabinet Office, adding: “No information is held indicating that a response was sent to Mr Hussain”.
The FCO has confirmed further: “On 27 September 2001, the FCO received correspondence, via No.10, from Mr Nirj Deva MEP enclosing a copy of the letter from Mr Hussain. Mr Ben Bradshaw MP, the then Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at the FCO, replied to Mr Deva’s letter.”
The News has obtained a copy of this reply to Mr Nirj Deva MEP, which states, “Thank you for your letter of 23 September to the Prime Minister, enclosing correspondence from Mr Altaf Hussain, leader of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM)”. Ben Bradshaw MP, UK’s then Foriegn Office Minister, stated that he was replying as he was the minister responsible for “our relations with Pakistan”.
Couched in diplomacy, the letter goes on to “welcome Mr Hussain’s condemnation of all forms of terrorism, his desire to assist the international community and support for democracy. Terrorists operate without regard for borders, so the fight against terrorism needs to be a global and concerted one”.
It is clear that the UK did not take up the offer of help from the MQM leader and preferred to deal with the-then head of the state. Added the minister: “I applaud President Musharraf’s courageous decision to support the international coalition and welcome his proposals to restore democratic government in Pakistan. I hope that he and the people of Pakistan can count on the MQM and other political parties to play a constructive role in securing Pakistan’s future.”
Nirj Deva MEP (whose real name is Niranjan Joseph De Silva Deva-Aditya and was born in Sri Lanka) agreed that he passed on the letter from the MQM to 10 Downing Street but said he was not aware of the contents of the letter and did not agree with the demands made within it. “I was asked by the MQM to pass on this letter to Tony Blair. I don’t take sides but if my constituents ask me to pass their letters to government departments then I will not say no. It is a standard practice for me and I have to listen to my constituents.”
Nirj Deva told The News that he knew Muhammad Anwar since 1992, and Dr Imran Farooq from 2000 onwards. “I was introduced to Dr Farooq by Muhammad Anwar. On the face of it the letter, though unsubtle, is offering help to the Coalition. Other than the idiotic clause about the ISI, the other ‘conditions’ appear to be pro-West and pro-democracy at a time when I suppose Pakistan was under military rule. Whether Hussain could have delivered cannot be measured other than by the experts in the FCO. No doubt they thought this was a lot of hot air, hence their bland reply to me.”
In September 2011, a war of words broke out between the former Sindh home minister Zulfikar Mirza and the MQM. Mirza alleged that the letter was written by the MQM but the MQM strongly denied having anything to do with it.
On September 4, 2011, Ansar Abbasi quoted “one of the country’s leading spymasters” as confirming that the alleged letter was written by the MQM leader. This assertion was robustly denied on September 6, 2011 by Mustafa Kamal, MQM’s leading figure, who held a press conference in Karachi and termed the letter “baseless”, akin to a “media trial” of the party.
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MQM had termed it fake and Blair government had refrained from making any comments on it. But BBC now got it confirmed from the British government that the letter was authentic and it did reach 10 Downing.
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Coz ISI would produce more Osamas? Really? Coz CIA had no hand in it?!
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The timing of the letter rings a bell? It is just after 911, and MQM tried to get mileage out of it. Two entities wanted to cash the situation India and MQM (it seems).
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12 saal pehlay ki baat hay, kuch ziadah hi charh gai thi. According current interview of FS with BBC, Bhai to awain hi makhol kar raha tha. You have to look for the content under what which he said. ![]()
tobah tobah, apnay creator ke baaray main kya keh dya, ehsan framosh:)
Listen to one of my most favorite singer Salim Raza rightly applicable to Bhai:)
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MQM had termed it fake and Blair government had refrained from making any comments on it. But BBC now got it confirmed from the British government that the letter was authentic and it did reach 10 Downing.
I dont want to drag names here, but this is a big slap in the face to all the paid MQM terrorist posters who I have argued with over the years (most of them banned). One of the things they used to say when this letter first surfaced was how it was fake and the British Govt denied it. Well, you filthy terrorists, what do you have to say now? Want me to dig those posts where you guys said this article was fabricated or was a talibaby ploy?
This post might deem a little harsh, but hey, over 10 years of wasting time arguing on this forum with MQM terrorist, I think it's only fair to ask!
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Thanks for sharing. I didn’t know that it was first sung by Saleem Raza in Pakistan. I heard this Ghazal of Mir Taqee Mir in voice of Pankaj Udhaas.
Yaaro Mujhe Muaf Rakho Mein Nashe by Pankaj Udas mpeg4 - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmSfi09o2LE)
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Last night I heard Saleem Bukhari claiming that there is a video recording of Altaf's acknowledgment of the letter, the only thing is that he said the letter did not mean what it had been made to say. That's the usual and most-taken reactionary line of the MQM that things have been said "out of context".
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Last night I heard Saleem Bukhari claiming that there is a video recording of Altaf's acknowledgment of the letter, the only thing is that he said the letter did not mean what it had been made to say. That's the usual and most-taken reactionary line of the MQM that things have been said "out of context".
didnt he explain what the context actually was? When they'd allow their leader to rant when he is drunk do they expect pearls of wisdom to come out from his mouth?
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^ You can always hear them taking this line that "ye baat siyaaq-o-sabaq sey hat kar peish ki ja rahi hey." I am sick of hearing this every single time AH says something and MQM leaders have to come to his defence.
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...don't worry .... MQM waliyaan noun hun apna thukaa chatan dee aadat hoo gayee hey ....
hun Altaf noun defend kernaa waday dil gurday da kam hey... inanoon pata hoonda hey keh kal ... Reverse kerna paee gaa...
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There is another side to the story which is not being discussed. It is a fact that ISI was behind creation of the monster of extremism, whose one face is Taliban. What ISI did is the cause of destruction of Pakistan today and resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of Pakistanis all across the country.
Now ISI has largely given up on this role, but at the time of 2001 attack, ISI'x support to Taliban was in full swing, ans so it makes sense if someone wished for elimination of such an entity bent upon destroying the country. I don't know why MQM wished for it but it is understandable why some people against extremism would want removal of support to Taliban.
I think altaf's true face is exposed to the world no. I don't care if MQM survives as a party or not. But we should at least try to be honest in our analysis. The reasons I mentioned above for MQM's letter should have been expressed by someone instead of just criticizing MQM mindlessly.
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I think altaf's true face is exposed to the world no. I don't care if MQM survives as a party or not. But we should at least try to be honest in our analysis. The reasons I mentioned above for MQM's letter should have been expressed by someone instead of just criticizing MQM mindlessly.
MQM's survival is connected with Altaf Bhai, the moment Bhai is eliminated from leadership, MQM will crumble down like dust. After Bhai's arrest, most of the leadership of MQM who were involved in heinous crimes would also go to gallows.
I hope in future you will never relate MQM as representative of Muhajir in Karachi.
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...don't worry .... MQM waliyaan noun hun apna thukaa chatan dee aadat hoo gayee hey ....
hun Altaf noun defend kernaa waday dil gurday da kam hey... inanoon pata hoonda hey keh kal ... Reverse kerna paee gaa...
British Police ka mamala hay Zardari bhi kuch nahin karsakta, majboori hay:(
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In the quality field they say "there are liars, dammed liars and then there are statisticians"
Its safe to extrapolate that in the context of Karachi and MQM, who the statistician category belongs to.
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plagiarizing of song by Pankaj Udas is no way near to original song sung by great Salim Raza in 1958, in movie ‘Saat Laakh’. In the movei you can see Suntosh Kumar, the handsome Pakistani hero of yester years and Aagha Taalish actor, who sung that song in the movie. The song was hit during late 50’s and 60’s. This is one of my most favorite song and love to listen always.
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No doubt the poetry is beautiful I liked Pankaj Udhas version kiyunke uss man Vidya balan hai ![]()
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All of the sane and intelligent people knew this guy and his party are traitors and corrupt to the extreme, the rest are just waking up to this now. :)
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There is another side to the story which is not being discussed. It is a fact that ISI was behind creation of the monster of extremism, whose one face is Taliban. What ISI did is the cause of destruction of Pakistan today and resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of Pakistanis all across the country. Now ISI has largely given up on this role, but at the time of 2001 attack, ISI'x support to Taliban was in full swing, ans so it makes sense if someone wished for elimination of such an entity bent upon destroying the country. I don't know why MQM wished for it but it is understandable why some people against extremism would want removal of support to Taliban.
I think altaf's true face is exposed to the world no. I don't care if MQM survives as a party or not. But we should at least try to be honest in our analysis. The reasons I mentioned above for MQM's letter should have been expressed by someone instead of just criticizing MQM mindlessly.
Why is it that MQM at that time rejected the notion that this letter existed? Every one on this forum knows my views about ISI (and its working), but asking help from a foreign country to help disbanding intelligence services. Isn't that considered traitorous? Can Bhai call for ISIs help in disbanding British intelligence services?