…talking to a co-worker (all I do is talk at work )…and she is telling me about her friends. One of her friends just bought her boyfriend a $1000 TV…he has 3 kids with her and hasnt popped the question.
Another one drives around her boyfriend everywhere he needs to go, pays for his meals, drinks, gas, etc. These are just a couple of stories, there are many many more.
When I hear about these girls…a tiny part of me feels blessed to be part of a culture where a guy cant get away with all of this. Another part of me wants to smack these girls for allowing men to walk all over them this way.
Do you think these men have taken a back seat? Do you think its because women have fought so hard for equal rights, men dont think its important to be chivalrous and gentlemen anymore?
Equal rights? I think women have sold themselves cheap.
Women have been degraded to the level of 'objects' now. Ever thought about roles women play in Bond movies and compared them to roles women used to play in 60s movies? Ever thought why they have cheerleaders? Ever eavesdropped on a group of male colleagues talking about a female co-worker or a group of male students talking about a hottie classmate? They humor the new supreme court nomination by Obama for her height!
I'd be labelled a traditionalist when I say that women are now being exploited much more in the name of liberation. Yes, we have many more women displaying their skills and brilliance in their professions, but they mostly are those who challenge this exploitation and would rather have no boyfriends than having buy gifts for a sleezy one.
But still Sara you can see the ratio some women get mistreated but some of them are treated with respect. And here in west is the same situation on the name of equal rights women have sold themselves cheap.
oh good god know, there are plenty of freeloaders found in every culture at any time in history.
in Pakistan these are the freeloaders who want huge jahaiz and connections to find them some cushy job to do nothing..or those who sit on their asses while their inlaws support them..
these men are just a bunch of lazy louts who need a swift kick in the ass.
I think we all are very lucky to follow a religion like Islam. Not only does it supports us as females but it gives us inner strength aswell.
I dont know if its just me or what, but now im seeing more females being treated as objects and this is what they call liberation. I found this really good quote on facebook, and i thought i would share it, its just so beautiful they way women are described in Islam.
The following incident took place when BOXER Muhammad Ali's daughters arrived at his home wearing clothes that were not modest. Here is the story as told by one of his daughters:When we finally arrived, the chauffeur escorted my younger sister, Laila, and me up to my father's suite. As usual, he was hiding behind the door waiting to scare us. We exchanged many hugs and kisses as we could possibly give in one day.My father took a good look at us. Then he sat me down on his lap and said something that I will never forget. He looked me straight in the eyes and said, "Hana, everything that God made valuable in the world is covered and hard to get to. Where do you find diamonds? Deep down in the ground, covered and protected. Where do you find pearls? Deep down at the bottom of the ocean, covered up and protected in a beautiful shell. Where do you find gold? Way down in the mine, covered over with layers and layers of rock. You've got to work hard to get to them."He looked at me with serious eyes. "Your body is sacred. You're far more precious than diamonds and pearls, and you should be covered too.
"Source: Taken from the book: More Than A Hero: Muhammad Ali's Life Lessons Through His Daughter's Eyes.
Oh good lord why have these women become sugar mamas… i feel the same way for girls who need sugar daddys… these men need to get up off of their behinds and start supporting these women… reminds me of this song by TLC… oh the good old 90s…
^ Sidra, I haven't heard that song in forever! RIP one of those TLC girls.
I guess women have become too dependent on men, even though the girl might be educated and be financially secure. Maybe it's the feeling of being needed or the desire for love?
Salaam
I think we all are very lucky to follow a religion like Islam. Not only does it supports us as females but it gives us inner strength aswell.
I dont know if its just me or what, but now im seeing more females being treated as objects and this is what they call liberation. I found this really good quote on facebook, and i thought i would share it, its just so beautiful they way women are described in Islam.
The following incident took place when BOXER Muhammad Ali's daughters arrived at his home wearing clothes that were not modest. Here is the story as told by one of his daughters:When we finally arrived, the chauffeur escorted my younger sister, Laila, and me up to my father's suite. As usual, he was hiding behind the door waiting to scare us. We exchanged many hugs and kisses as we could possibly give in one day.My father took a good look at us. Then he sat me down on his lap and said something that I will never forget. He looked me straight in the eyes and said, "Hana, everything that God made valuable in the world is covered and hard to get to. Where do you find diamonds? Deep down in the ground, covered and protected. Where do you find pearls? Deep down at the bottom of the ocean, covered up and protected in a beautiful shell. Where do you find gold? Way down in the mine, covered over with layers and layers of rock. You've got to work hard to get to them."He looked at me with serious eyes. "Your body is sacred. You're far more precious than diamonds and pearls, and you should be covered too.
"Source: Taken from the book: More Than A Hero: Muhammad Ali's Life Lessons Through His Daughter's Eyes.
Inshallah, it won’t always be like this. my generation will make positive changes that will get rid of these antiquated customs… hard work, ambition, self respect, etc are way overrated.
btw, if you know any more of these women, please send them my way. I’m looking for a sugarmama. must be loaded. aunties with prenups need not apply.
And she still decided to take part in boxing despite his disapproval of women boxing.
I do not think your post meant to show any ‘equality’ between men and women or underestimating islam..(especially by using the word support), so above argument by code red is out of sync.
Its not only the western societies but also in Sindh its a very common way of life that women go to farms for work and men play cards all day long . Later they come back home and also cook for the man .
I think at some level women just take too much responsibility which in this man dominated society totally undermines the role of women . It gives a chance for men to ask for more and more and more .
I'll support for women being more independent financially . It can stop their exploitation as only breadwinner . But being emotionally dependent on a man makes them handicapped .
^Namaan is absolutely right. It also happens a lot within the poor class, I've seen it in Karachi. The women work as maids and their good-for-nothing husbands take their money to go drink and gamble. All this has been going on even before the feminism movement started in the 60s.
Listen people. Don't use stories like this to knock down the feminist movement.
First off, women have always been exploited and even like this in previous civilizations where there was no feminism and no rights for women. We know this. Just look at the lingering effects of the preIslamic Hindu culture in our current culture. 90% of our warped ideas on women come from there. And there was no feminist movement back then.
So has liberation put us at higher risk for exploitation? In some ways, since we have the ability to make our own decisions at a younger age against parental wishes, sure. But that's not really feminism. That has to do with how American families are raising their kids these days and the new age concept of teenagers = adults. That goes for both genders. You let an inexperienced kid make their own relationship and substance abuse decisions and most will engage I'm reckless behavior.
I blame the media more than feminism. How the media shows women - the ideal woman being unrealiatically hot and loaded with money with a hot boyfriend - that's not a part of feminism. But it's what you're seeing women trying to become. I know few women who actually lead a feminist life and honestly, they have too much self respect to get played like that.
We really need to differentiate decisons based on feminism vs. Just plain reckless behavior.
I'm seeing more reckless behavior from BOTH genders and I think it has more to do with our family units, materialism, faster economy, culture of instant gratification, and media influence more than the effects of ladies from the 50's who sought for equal rights in the workplace.
well arent these cases where women are doing this out of their own volition? everyone has an associated social value, and those low on the scale due to whatever reason (chronic ugliness, obesity, bad breath, no real job etc) have to offer up other incentives, and/or pick out someone on a similar rung on the ladder. kinda like how people drop their expectations in arranged marriages as they get older - from shehzada saleem bicepswala to uncle haleem tondu.
)…and she is telling me about her friends. One of her friends just bought her boyfriend a $1000 TV…he has 3 kids with her and hasnt popped the question. 
