Re: diffrence in shia and sunni quran
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Bro Ravage, if we consider nasakh wa mansukh between the two sources i.e. Quran and Hadith then what you say has some grounds for discussion given that the alteration of Quran or reference to such is only preserved in the ahadith. This would mean manuskh of the category where the Quranic verse is absent from the mushaf irrespective of whether its ruling has been preserved in the Sunnah or not. The actual verse does not exist. Even if those hadith have been given the status of mutawatir in Sunni sources (I don’t know what there status is in the Shia sources), I still am unable to reconcile in my mind that there could be a need to omit a verse and preserve its ruling as is the case with the verse of stoning. If a verse along with its ruling is to be omited then that would make more sense. Quranic mansukh verses having the nasakh verses present within the Quran has never been questionable to me in my mind. Its all the categories of nasakh wa mansukh associated between the two sources i.e. Quran and hadith that startle me and have raised eyebrows in both Shia ans Sunni sects about alteration of the Quran.
One question, can you refer to any Sunni source which also indicates that the Quran with Hazrat Ali RA was in a different order and what happened to it. Why did he maintain such a Quran whereas none of the other Sahaba did that?