Re: Dhikr
Dear lethal kamikaze, the quran is not something to be taken lightly. If the quran is to be taken seriously then it needs backing up and that is the problem for muslims ie they have no idea how to back it up and that is where muslims including you and me need to work.
Only if one has read the quran from cover to cover and with proper understanding that one can seek proof and proving otherwise it is no use as is the case on this forum. People here do not have the sense of proof and proving process so no matter what even if I put up the whole quran here they will not be able to know what I am doing that for. They do not want to make effort for themselves instead they want someone else to do it for them. This is the mindset and attitude that has ruined our nation.. Even if somebody gives them time to help them know things, they do not have the time to give the matter proper attention because deep inside their heads they are not committed to the quran. Instead they are doing what they are committed to ie their actions speak louder than their words.
Just so that formality is completed please read the quran in context not as senseless broken bits and pieces as told by mullahs. My question is, have you ever questioned the inconsistencies in the quranic translations and interpretations?
Here is a link to some and see for yourself and tell me if any of them is consistent surah by surah and through out the quran? What is common theme or thread that binds the quranic message together? If anyone reads these even for whole of his liofe one will just pick and choose some of the things from the verses one understand as individual items and one will leave rest of the text alone because it makes absolutely no sense as it has been rendered by people who themselves did not understand the quranic message.
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In the quran some surahs’ begin with word like SABAH eg
al-Hadid 57:1
al-Hashr 59:1
as-Saff 61:1
al-Jumu`ah 62:1
Can you or anyone else here explain what does it really mean in the quranic context?
Any molvi will tell you it means it has something to do with TASBEEH and TASBEEH has something to do with ZIKR, the question is what is connection between tasbeeh and zikr and sawaab?
Why Surahs of the quran begin with verse that has something to do with tasbeeh? Unless one thinks over this and gets a sensible answer, one has not read the quran at all. I do not just read the quran I think about things the quran talks about and I question why it talks about things because their has tpo be some purposeful connection between things. Unless each and everyone of us ponders over the quranic words and verses and surahs, one is not going to benefit from the quran because it says again and again that it has been revealed for a set purpose and that purpose is benefit of mankind.
What is benefit for mankind in tasbeeh, zikr and sawaab as it is told by molvies? Is that the reason we are today in the mess we are? If you look at adverts on tv and newspapers and magazines etc. There are so many adverts therein for aamils who claim to solve peoples’ problems through some magical solutions. They tell people read this or that word or verse so many times and your problem will be solved. Did you ever think deeply about all this as to why people go to these people for getting their problem solved? Look at number of people who visit tombs of saints to get their problems solved. You also know all this TAWEEZ business. It shows what people want ie thye have problems and they want their solutions and that is the ultimate reason ignorant poeple instead of coing to tyhe quran for gaining knolwedge go to on a tour get someone who will solve their problems magically.
All this tells us very clearly that people do not know how live their lives properly. This should tell you that the quran was send to teach people how to live properly so that they do not have problems that they have. Thi9s is what mullahs have done to this ummah ie they have deliberately turned people ignorant and stupid so that they could have control over their minds. As I explained in my other posts people not only make others their slaves by exerting fear in minds of each other by way of physical violence but they also make them psychological patients by feeding all sorts of nonsense in the name of God. It is one way that I rob you by pointing my gun to your head and another to make you empty your pockets to me by way of mind control and yet another to cheat you by way of money trading as rich are doing to the poor individuals and nations. If you cannot think yet at that level then all this is nonsense to you but if you can then what I am saying will make sense to you.
Does it not seem strange that one and a half billion muslims count for nothing despite making big claims? Where is their saintly power? Where are their jins? Where is there magic power? It is all fake in the end, just made up stories that some clever people use to cheat ignorant people in their own societies. After all if people can turn to all sorts of things including woman selling their bodies for food and shelter in all muslim societies and mullahs and peers can do nothing for them then what does tasbeeh, zikr and sawaab means for them?
All this shows that there are no magical solutions of any sort for humanity to solve its problems. Its problems are real and they need real solution and that is what tasbeeh, sikr and sawaab is all about. This is why we each and everyone must learn and teach the quran to each other properly for the purpose it was revealed. It was revealed to turn ignorant man in to a knowledgeable person so that by knowing how world works one learns one oneself should work in order to fulfil his needs and desires so that one means no trouble for oneself or for others. Not only that but one is helpful to others so that society becomes free of its ignorance and arrogance based problems.
SABBAH means to strove very hard to fulfil one’s set out program or goal. ZIKR means to become powerful and when one is powersful through making effort as told then one benefits from that oneself as well as others and that is sawwab.
I would urge everyone to learn the quran properly and follow it if at all you want for future for yourself and other human beings. This is true message of the quran. The quran condemns people trying to live by rule of any other than Allah. This condemnation is clear that you will suffer grievously and that is what is happening to people ie because they do not bother understand quran so they do not know how to live a good life in this world and therefore they will have nothing more than worries and regrets even for hereafter.
Don’t follow anyone blindly learn things yourself because only learning things yourself can benefit you and others. Staying ignorant is unforgivable crime which results in life time painful suffering. This suffering you cannot get rid of by following magical ideas of mullahs. They talk nonsense and you know it by their results of of what they teach. Bani israel story is not told just for fun of it but it really has big lessons for us. Particularly about what their mullahs did to their people. If you do not learn things critically then you cannot see the difference between proper ulema of the quran and fake ones and by following ideas of fake mullahs you always end up in a lot of trouble.
I hope this explains my position very clearly on the issues. The facts on the ground speak for themselves. You sit in one place and take a very long tasbeeh and keep repeating Allah Allah whole day and night and soon you will see all the benefits of doing that. If you cannot accept what you see with your own eyes which you can verify then you are beyond anyone’s help. Live in real world, see real problems and find real solutions is the lesson of the quran. Don’t take fancy flights.
May Allah give us insight in to the quranic message so that we could benefit from it and take this message to others to help them as well and therefore make this world the blissful kingdom of God.
