Devdasis - Misunderstood Women

muqawwee123 · March 19, 2012, 11:53am

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Inspite of hating Devdasi or their singing, Muslim women adapted this.. I mean to say observe a Mehfil e Milad and Hindu Katha reading ceremony, you'll find many similarities :D

Regarding traits of a women, I heard it to be total 36... But I don't know what were those traits / characteristics?

muqawwee123 · March 19, 2012, 4:50pm

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:eek: now I knew what was the inspiration and source of the infamous tradition of marrying girls with Quran in Sindh.

The tradition of dance and Indian socio-religious-cultural system goes together. Devadasi is a group of women who danced in the temple premises. The term devadasi literally means slave (dasi) of God (deva). She is dedicated to a divine husband who can never die. Marriage with a God exempted a woman from the uncomfortable state of widowhood. In Orissa, Devadasi is known as Mahari means "those great women who can control natural human impulses, their five senses and can submit themselves completely to God”. In another version Mahari means “Mohan Nari” that is the woman belonging to God. Sri Chaitanayadev had defined Devadasis as ‘Sebaets’ who served God through dance and music. Pankaj Charan Das, the oldest Guru of Odissi, who belongs to a Mahari family, explains Mahari as “Maha-Ripu -Ari (one who conquers the five main ripus or enemies). The life of Maharis is a saga of devotion, they not allowed marrying. They lived in a close- knit community, and to propagate the system they adopted daughters. They were usually trained from a very early age, and have very little control over her life. After completion of the training, the adolescent girl had to go through a ritual in the temple. In front of the king, the priests and other important people they were dedicated to Lord Jagannath. A piece of cloth, taken from Lord Jagannath was tied on the girl’s head, as a part of the ceremony. This ritual is called the ‘Sari Bandha’ or 'Samarpan Cermony’. The foster mother had to give a part of her wealth to the dance Guru (sometimes to the temple priests), as a price for acquiring the right to serve the Lord.

Looking into historical facts; the first reference to a Devdasi is found in the mention of Queen Kolavati of Keshari dynasty (6[SUP]th[/SUP] century A.D.) having constructed the Brahmeswar temple and dedicated many Devadasis to it. In the same period references are found to the Meghaswar and Sovaneswar temple also having Devadasis. When King Chodagangadev completed the construction of the Jagannath temple, he regularized the temple administration completely. He created 36 categories of workers to serve Lord Jagannath. The Devadasis were one of them. He allotted land for their living (till date known as ‘Chudangasahi’ provided them with regular maintenance, and disciplined their lives with various rules and regulations. The detailed accounts of the rules are written in ‘Madala Panji’. From the beginning, the Maharis were treated with great respect and compared to none other than Goddess Lakshmi; the wife of Lord Vishnu.

http://www.orissadiary.com/Showyournews.asp?id=26

muqawwee123 · March 20, 2012, 9:24am

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So this tradition survived 800 years of Muslim Rule? What does this mean?

the_kaur · March 21, 2012, 11:25am

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Devdasis were dedicated to God, they had god as their husband but ended up as prostitutes, its like fate of salatins:D
the original concept was NagarVadhu, literately, wife of city, there used to be beauty competition and winner had the title of NagarVadhu who used to dance on the occasions in the houses of high end people somewhat similar to modern day high end escorts:D

This probably means that muslims were tolerant or they didn’t want to enrage people or it wasn’t muslim rule at all:D

muqawwee123 · March 21, 2012, 11:32am

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What do you mean by fate of Salatins

NagarVadhu! Now I know what is the inspriation behind Miss India, Miss Chandigar contests

Muslim historians claim for breaking idols and not stopping this alleged prostitution say a lot about their intentions

the_kaur · March 21, 2012, 11:43am

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that just like Salatins these people lived miserably and ended miserably:)

google Anara Gupta, miss Jammu:D, I wont post in detain else I will be banned:D, anyways these miss concepts are foreign-born

except muslim clergy kings would have enjoyed it, Chankya taxed it and used them in honey trapping and spy network:)

muqawwee123 · March 21, 2012, 11:47am

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Chankaya was such an intelligent person.. ek teer se do shikar…

Anara Gupta jis ka naam hi anaar ho

ninja_hattori · March 21, 2012, 11:50am

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The concept of devdasis flourished more in south India where muslim influence was very limited...
may be The kaur may correct me if I am wrong

the_kaur · March 21, 2012, 11:51am

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It is said anyone who saw his smile never saw sunrise the other day:D

muqawwee123, just google the name:)

muqawwee123 · March 21, 2012, 11:54am

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whose smile was so fatal? Was he a Mughal / Mongol?

I’ll Gupt research for Anar, once I reach safe corner of my home

the_kaur · March 21, 2012, 3:33pm

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In north the purdah system came only after burqa came to their knowledge, else there is no purdah system mentioned in any hindu story ever:) there were five major brothels in Delhi even during mughal road, Barring GB road brits closed other four:)

He was brahmin/panditji, this community is known for brilliance, mohan lal kashmiri and spymaster Kao was also Brahmins:)

Fair enough in Anara case:D

muqawwee123 · March 21, 2012, 3:35pm

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She is quite hawwt… This again reminds me ’ Kashmiri apni betiyon ko kia khilate hain’

the_kaur · March 21, 2012, 3:41pm

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She is my school classmate of Jammu:), never knew she would turn into desi sunny leone:D

muqawwee123 · March 21, 2012, 3:43pm

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Suuny Leone.. aaj to History forums pe bahar cha gai hai

the_kaur · March 21, 2012, 4:18pm

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Sunny leone is going to act in Jism2, now porn star would be next filmstar in India, and this is history

muqawwee123 · March 21, 2012, 4:19pm

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With Pooja Bhatt... and Bhatt camp.. expect the unexpected...

the_kaur · March 21, 2012, 4:40pm

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Next would be Priya Rai:D

muqawwee123 · March 21, 2012, 4:52pm

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and now don’t tell me that she was also from your college / university like Pretty Zenta and that Kashir ki Kali I mean Anara Gupta

the_kaur · March 21, 2012, 5:09pm

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nope she wasn’t. the other stars like Sushmita sen was my senior in Bareilly and so was lara in Bangalore, and south Indian actress Nayantara was my classmate in Bhuj, Gujrat

ninja_hattori · March 21, 2012, 5:11pm

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Lucky Lady

BTW nagma is also north indian?