Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders
Calling it a pathetic attempt ?
You accept the fact that Hz Yusaf a.s saw a vision in which sun, moon and stars making obeisance to Him. The reply of His father was the ‘interpretation’ of that vision. How unfair is it that this vision needs interpretation and you have no problem with it, but the statement you quoted of Hz Ahmad(as), you want others to take it literally even though, you yourself have said it was a vision. Be a wise man please.
What is there to ‘seriously think’ ? It was a vision, that had interpretation. Don’t make a big deal out of it. Visions that prophets see are far beyond our understandings.. and we accept the visions because they are from God. Satan don’t come in form of Allah. You accept Yusuf a.s’s vision needed interpretation.. accept this that the vision of Hz Ahmad(as) needed interpretation too. Instead of asking for interpretation, you’re accepting it to take the same meaning as how it is seen in vision. Failed attempt.
Exactly. So, where’s your first response the moment you know about Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as)'s claim ? Why do you not say.. i do not accept him BECAUSE Jesus a.s is the only one that will come back .. he a.s is alive and only he will return. Do you think your this belief bring lots of contradiction?
You finally understood me. To judge His writings would mean you have accepted one thing, which is the death of Jesus a.s. You are not questioning His writing because you want to know if the person you’re waiting for is Him or not. But it’s ok.. hopefully you wont make the same mistake again, and actually tackle the question that needs to be answered first — the ascension of Isa a.s
Notice the word ‘descend’. i.e Nazala/Nazul. Not the word ‘return’. i.e raju’un. For a person who is coming back, the word coming back is used, not descend. Allah says He descended animals, iron, rain, garments etc from heaven.
Let me also give you some more information . Hopefully you will connect the dots and give it some thought.
Muslim shariyah has been called the maseel of Musvi shariyah. Muhammad PBUH has been called the maseel / like of Musa a.s in Quran.
Khulfa e rashideen has been called the maseel of the prophets sent to Bani Israel
Now lets compare the two:
The beginning of Musvi shariya was with Hz Mosa (as) .. then lots of prophets were sent in Bani Israel … at the end of Musvi shariyah is Jesus a.s
The beginning of Muhammad shariyah was Hz Muhammad PBUH.. then there were khualafa after him.. In order for the comparison of both of these ummah to complete, Muhammadi shariyah must also have a Messiah at the end ( as is believed..he will come in latter days ). This is the reason why Messiah that is to be sent to Muslims is called Jesus, Maseeh Ibn e Maryam. Isa a.s is the name given to him by Allah.. whereas Messiah is the title and Ibn e Maryam is the ‘quality’.. Momins have been compared with Maryam and Asiya (as) in the Holy Quran, where as disbelievers have been compared with Hz Noah (as)'s wife. The quality of being ibn e maryam is that there will be a person who will be as pure, and unchaste as Maryam (as). Whose piousness will be accepted even by His opponents. Name Isa is because he a.s will be at the end of Muhammadi shariyah and Isa a.s was at the end of Musvi shariyah. It also means he a.s will have same qualities as that of Jesus a.s i.e peace loving, having knowledge of previous scriptures.. His birth will be questioned ( one of the point of his rejection is that he a.s was not from the family of Fatimah a.s ) just as how the birth of Jesus a.s was questioned ( though, both of these allegations on their birth are false ). His death will be questioned. ( Jesus a.s’s death is questioned as well as Hz Ahmad a.s, and both allegations are false ) and other qualities as such.
Let me cut the story short now. I can give you more of the information but it seems you’re slow in understanding so ill stop at this point.
Jesus a.s of Nazareth is dead. In the personality of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(as) is the fulfillment of the prophecy of Jesus a.s descend. He a.s was born in Qadian, east of Damascus. He was helped by angels in His mission and 2 yellow sheets denotes 2 diseases He a.s had.
For Jesus a.s to descend from heaven, he must first go up to heavens. A belief that has not legs to stand on. Just a blind belief portrayed by Mullahs.