Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@Mr.Popat

removing words from your quote to make my point.

1. it’s a vision, wasnt it ? ok , great then
2. Hz Yousaf saw a vision too. Do you reject it ?
   When Yusuf said to his father: O my father! surely I saw eleven stars and the sun and the moon-- I saw them making obeisance to me. 12:04

Popat Sorry to say that was a pathetic attempt to explain away MGAQ ibn Chiragh Bibi’s vision.

Hz. Yusuf (as) saw a vision from Allah Almighty and message being that he will be honoured as a prophet just like his father Hz. Yakub (as) and grandfather Hz, Ibrahim (as).

Following was the reply of Hz. Yakub (as) to his son (Hz. Yusuf (as)) when he had related his dream. There is nothing more to it.

“O my son! Relate not your vision to your brothers, lest they arrange a plot against you. Verily! Satan is to man an open enemy! Thus will your Lord choose you and teach you the interpretation of dreams (and other things) and perfect His Favor on you and on the offspring of Jacob, as He perfected it on your fathers, Abraham, and Isaac aforetime! Verily! your Lord is All-Knowing, All-Wise.” (Ch 12:5-6)

Refer back to MGAQ ibn Chiragh Bibi’s vision. He is diffused into Allah Almighty ('audhu billah) and Allah is diffused into him ('audhu billah) and from then on he started using the term ‘We’ .

"Then I created the lower heaven and said: We have decorated the lower heaven with lamps.

“Then I said: We shall now create man from the essence of clay. Then my condition moved from vision towards the reception of revelation and my tongue uttered: I determined to make a vicegerent and created Adam.

Then we created man in the best mould”

Do you seriously think that this was a Divine vision or just an ego trip by MGAQ?

@Mr.Popat

3. You’re making this mistake again. :halo: When you question what he a.s wrote, then you’re indirectly accepting the belief that Jesus a.s is dead and whoever you’re waiting for is someone other than Jesus a.s but the person is NOT him. If that’s the case, then I have alhamdulillah accomplished one of the task.. to know, if the person is Hz Ahmad(as) or not, you can PM me and ill show you his truthfulness.

You sound very confused, I have not acknowledged anything tacitly or otherwise – you are just dreaming. The blessed Prophet Muhammad (saw) has given us the clearest signs for the descent of Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as)

No PMs, say what you have to say here.

@Mr.Popat

I dont see your first response ! Your response should be .. ‘wait a minute, no matter what he says.. he cannot be messiah, because messiah will be literally coming back from heavens’. I dont see this from your side. Are you afraid you cannot defend your belief ?

That’s true – the very words for the lips of the Blessed Prophet Muhammad (saw)

Allah’s Apostle(SAW) said:

Allah will send Maseeh ibne Maryam (Messiah son of Mary). Thus he will descend near the White Eastern Minaret of Damascus, clad in two yellow sheets, leaning on the shoulders of two angels. (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 8, P. 192-193)

It is reported by Aws Ibn Aws al-Thaqafi(RA) that hazrat Muhammad(SAW)said:

Jesus, son of Mary, will descend near the white minaret towards the east of Damascus. (Tabarani)