Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders
It does not matter what evidence I show you. You have made up a belief and now to defend that belief, you will keep on bringing out exceptions from the verses. In that case, i see no hope for you.
You also like to tell me how I do not have knowledge of Arabic language when you find nothing else to say.
From my side, I DO say that He a.s must be dead if hes not on earth. But I was merely encouraging you to think about the ‘possibility’ of his death if hes not on Earth.
It is not me whose struggling, but rather you, who when have no answer tells me 1) I need to learn Arabic 2) there are exceptions.
Though, the exception is only because you have to adjust your belief in there. The verse is as simple as it can get. You live on Earth, this is an abode for you to live, anywhere else you die. Therefore, herein shall you live, and herein shall you die, pointing at the fact that if you dare try going outside of Earth, you die!. Then, I dont know about you.. but majority of Muslims say that Prophet Isa a.s WILL come to “Earth” to die.
Yes, the verse negates the concept of someone coming from heavens bodily alive. It is not against someone coming but rather someone coming from somewhere outside of Earth, ‘physically’ alive.
Ahadith mentioning ibn e maryam’s arrival does not contradict Qur’an. Quran says that if a messenger come to you rehearsing my signs to you, then for sure support him.
Qur’an openly announces Jesus of Nazareth dead. You cannot keep bringing out exceptions in every verse provided to you. Ahadith also indicates His death. No hadith do we find mentioning about his physical ascension. No verse do we find supporting that idea. In contrary, we have verses and ahadith telling us that He a.s himself is dead.
Muslim Ummah as you should know are called the like of bani israel. Muhammad PBUH as you should know is called the like of Musa a.s. There are ahadith that you must know which says that my ummah will be acting just like jews. Scholars and sufi’s of Islam are called the like of the prophets sent to bani israel. In order for this whole comparison to be complete, we must wait for a Messiah sent to Muslim Ummah just like how a Messiah was sent to bani israel at their end times. Therefore, we do not neglect any hadith mentioning the arrival of Messiah. We just reject that the same prophet which was sent to bani israel will not be coming back, since he a.s is dead.
this is again poor analogy. When Allah is comparing Adam a.s with Jesus a.s, he is telling christians that if not having a father is worth calling Him God, then Adam a.s qualifies more for that position since he was created without father or mother. Then the verse says, Allah created him out of clay and he says be and it is. If Jesus a.s was born in a womb of virgin mary, on Earth, then how do you see the comparison of Adam a.s with Jesus a.s ?
You r not getting it. After adam a.s was sent down, it was after that God said therein shall you live. Jesus a.s came way after. Up till the time of Jesus a.s, no one went to heavens alive to God, but its only Jesus a.s who did. Strange but ok. No one else ever went out to God the way Jesus have. Ok.
I’ve answered to the verse 55:33 earlier. What is authority ? authority is the knowledge that Allah gives to humans to get to know what is out there… You can also not ‘live’ in water except by Allah’s authority.
thanks chacha ghalib. We both have been patient. But for me, my job is to keep repeating same thing over and over, and keep praying for them. You never know what one thing may soften their heart and for once, they start thinking with their own minds rather than someone dictating to them their beliefs with no questions asked.