psyah
August 31, 2012, 8:11pm
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Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders
Dear psyah, there are problems with your question but I think you do not realise them this is why you are seeking direct evidence from me. It is not possible to connect beliefs to actions directly. However as it is always said that tree is known by its fruit so indirectly it is possible to link beliefs to actions, why? Because if you really believe in doing something then you could go ahead and do it when you get the chance ie people act on their beliefs after all what is motivation all about? On that basis there is ample evidence that people who believe in things happening supernaturally always expect them to happen supernaturally. It is just their mindset and attitude to do so. This is why such people rush to anyone who they think can do things for them. It is for this reason we see people rushing to graves of people and they rush to any person who seems to them a holly person. This being the case it takes people away from real life real solutions. That is how it brings harm to society. People give up looking for real reasons for their problems so they stop looking for their real solutions.
For example, a person is seriously ill but that person believes by visiting a certain grave he will be cured so he does that and keeps doing that. If result he expects does not materialise he blames himself for not doing things properly rather than accepting that his beliefs are wrong. This too is told to him by those who direct people in to such beliefs to begin with. This is how all the mazaaries or majaawars deceive people. Due to such beliefs the nation is turned into brainless people.
Again there is connection between promotion of make beliefs, rulers, priests and holly-men and bankers or moneymakers. This is how they do business if you like by making fool of ignorant masses. Governments are behind these kind of poeple because they help take away attention of people from governments. If these people were not in the way making fool of masses they will think about matters related to governments and make them work as is the case in educated societies because people are less likely to be fooled in that case. This is how public is kept in confusion and rulers remain in their positions of power and the business carries on as usual.
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So you can see the effects of make beliefs all over the world. You will see the peers and babas have lots of people in high positions among their disciples but that is not necessarily for right reasons but for partnership. You see if anyone is going to con people he will have to organise the scam accordingly. Small level scams have small level planing and huge scams have much bigger planning and involves more people and at higher level.
Look at how people write this is fake peer and that is true peer or saieen baaba or holly man. Only those who are exposed by those hurt by scams are labelled fake and rest are thought to be ok so the business carries on.
The truth is belief in miracles and magic etc is totally false and it was promoted by rulers through priests for giving basis to religions so that state remains in control of people. There is no real basis for it in deen of islam because islam wants to make people clever not stupid so that they can do great things. The quran was revealed to take people out of these things back into real world realities. From quranic perspective education of masses is of high importance. Keeping people ignorant or confused was not the purpose of the quran but that is what it is used for by a great number of people who claim to be its supporters. No way they are its supporters because its program is not implemented to remove all ills from human society.
I hope this helps understand things better.
regards and all the best.
Peace Mughal1
There is nothing wrong with my question … I asked the question because you stated earlier that believing in miracles harms society. So I was asking for evidence of this. The rest of what you said is a blur. Please stop giving me dabba peer stuff … give me your take on the Ascension of Isa (AS) as a miracle or the parting of the sea by Musa (AS) as a miracle and explain how you think this harms society.