Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@Mr.Popat

Do you understand the difference between a claim and claim with evidence ? What you do is claim. What I need is a claim with evidence.
You say Jesus a.s raised dead literally ‘by Allah’s will’.
You say Jesus cured blind literally ‘by Allah’s will’
You say Jesus literally healed the leper ‘by Allah’s will’
Do you have any evidence from any book in which Jesus raised dead literally and after being alive, the person have told about His experience as dead? Any evidence do you see in which jews accepted Jesus a.s just for the mere reason of raising dead ? I don’t think anyone would deny the truthfulness of such a person having Godly powers.
If they were all done by Jesus ‘literally’ then only mere difference between you and a Christian is that you say he did it by Allah’s will, whereas Christians say He a.s did it himself. Allah says only He will raise dead. But you insist Jesus have performed such a task literally, thereby elevating his status yet again as that of God. Nauzubillah.
What’s even more surprising is that in His second coming, He will not be performing any of such miracles. Why not ? Miracles limited to that time only ?
Furthermore, I need proof of your claim that the way I understood is not the same way companions of holy prophet s.a.w understood. Just merely saying something like this is not convincing enough. Thanks.

Popat You are asking me if I have any evidence from book “in which Jesus raised dead literally and after being alive”?

My answer is Yes the book is the Quran itself! I am giving you some popular translations of the ayah 3:49

Muhammad Asad and [will make him] an apostle unto the children of Israel.” "I HAVE COME unto you with a message from your Sustainer. I shall create for you out of clay, as it were, the shape of [your] destiny, and then breathe into it, so that it might become [your] destiny by God’s leave; and I shall heal the blind and the leper, and bring the dead back to life by God’s leave; and I shall let you know what you may eat and what you should store up in your houses. Behold, in all this there is indeed a message for you, if you are [truly] believers. al-Imran 3:49

M. M. Pickthall And will make him a messenger unto the Children of Israel, (saying): Lo! I come unto you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathe into it and it is a bird, by Allah’s leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah’s leave. And I announce unto you what ye eat and what ye store up in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for you, if ye are to be believers. al-Imran 3:49

Shakir And (make him) a messenger to the children of Israel: That I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I determine for you out of dust like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird with Allah’s permission and I heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah’s permission and I inform you of what you should eat and what you should store in your houses; most surely there is a sign in this for you, if you are believers. al-Imran 3:49

**Yusuf Ali **"And (appoint him) a messenger to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah’s leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah’s leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe; al-Imran 3:49

Rashad Khalifa As a messenger to the Children of Israel: "I come to you with a sign from your Lord - I create for you from clay the shape of a bird, then I blow into it, and it becomes a live bird by GOD’s leave. I restore vision to the blind, heal the leprous, and I revive the dead by GOD’s leave. I can tell you what you eat, and what you store in your homes. This should be a proof for you, if you are believers. al-Imran 3:49

The language is so clear cut that it does not need any interpretation.

It is what it says. Those who have perversity in their hearts and other self serving agendas will seek other interpretations

He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding. **Al Imran: ayah 7**

Allah says only He will raise dead.

That’s a true statement. Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) never claimed such status for himself.

But you insist Jesus have performed such a task literally, thereby elevating his status yet again as that of God. Nauzubillah.

No Muslim worth his salt will say that Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) performed such task on his own.

You are not reading the Quran properly!!!

All the tasks done by Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as)were by Allah’s leave.

Read the above quoted ayahs again. (For your benefit I have highlighted the “By Allah’s Leave”

Gotta go will answer later

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Do you have any evidence from any book in which Jesus raised dead literally and after being alive, the person have told about His experience as dead?

Quran states the Hz. Isa Ibn Maryam (as) raised the dead with Allah’s leave. This is what we believe, unfortunately for you the Quran is silent about the interview the ‘lucky fella’ gave after being pronounced alive after having tasted death. But I can be assure you this that his family must have been very happy to have him back! Quran doesn’t normally cover trivial matters.

Any evidence do you see in which jews accepted Jesus a.s just for the mere reason of raising dead ? I don’t think anyone would deny the truthfulness of such a person having Godly powers.

Did the Makkans accept Prophet Muhammad (as) when he split the moon with Allah’s permission?

Sure some Jews must have accepted him and being haughty people majority would not have but in the Hereafter that will be against them.

Furthermore, I need proof of your claim that the way I understood is not the same way companions of holy prophet s.a.w understood. Just merely saying something like this is not convincing enough.

Overwhelming of Muslims follow Quran as taught by Prophet Muhammad (saw) and followed by his blessed Companions (May Allah be pleased with them all) - That’s the norm.

Mr MGAQ ibn Chiragh Bibi has rejected the ahadith and has interpreted the Quran in line with his so-called ‘Wahi’ - So the onus is on you my friend to show that you still follow what Prophet Muhammad (saw) had taught and was practiced by his blessed Companions (raa).

This you can only show from ahadith which unfortunately for you has been rejected by Mr MGAQ ibn Chiragh Bibi

What’s even more surprising is that in His second coming, He will not be performing any of such miracles.

This is simple and obvious - This time around he will not be coming as a Prophet but an Universal Islamic leader - That will not be the time miracles but action - To save Mankind from Fitna tul Dajjal and bring peace and harmony in the tormented world. - He will achieve all that within his lifetime.