Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@Mr.Popat

You do realize when I say something I do keep in mind what events Promised Messiah a.s experienced right ? Why do you unnecessarily coming up with ridiculous allegations which have nothing to do with the topic ?

I have not brought any ridiculous allegations against MGAQ; I have given you reference and you trying to explain it means that you have accepted what I had stated. You don’t have to be embarrassed about his statement.

It is very relevant to the topic at hand; Ahmadi very pretentiously claim to be very rationalists but when it comes explaining various statements of MGAQ, rationality goes out of the window in wink of an eye.

All verbal somersaults are done to explain the unexplainable statements.

Popat at the end I going to give you one more statement of MGAQ, let’s see if you can explain it rationally. I’ll leave that to the last.

@Mr.Popat

I said nothing is thrown literally from the heaven as heaven is not a physical place. God assign the task to the angels and whatever Allah needed to do on Earth is done by Him. Thats what it means by coming from heavens. We are provided on Earth by earthly materials which are from heavens.

How do know you that Heaven is not a physical place? Wow this is news to us.

So Ahmadis take Heaven to be a spiritual experience only?

In my earlier post I had shown you, which you confirmed that Adam (as) and his wife were not in Heaven but Mesopotamia (present day Iraq). And that Mr. Iblis was ‘bad guy’ in the same neighbourhood!

Then can you explain why Hz. Adam (as)and his wife were sent to Earth. Wasn’t Mesopotamia on Earth to begin with?

But Satan caused them both to stumble therein, and thus brought about the loss of their erstwhile state. And so We said: “Down with you, [and be henceforth] enemies unto one another; and on earth you shall have your abode and your livelihood for a while!” 2:36 Muhammad Asad

But Satan caused them both to slip by means of it and drove them out of the state in which they were. And WE said, `Go forth hence; some of you are enemies of others and for you there is an abode in the earth and a provision for a time.’ 2:36 **Sher Ali – Ahmadi translation.
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@Mr.Popat

He a.s saw a kashf and the red drops was a sign of the true kashf he was seeing. As simple as that. Spare yourself sometime to not quote stuff from jamaat e ahmadiyya. Its not really goin to help you one bit. You are not His believer. However, you and I are believer of Muhammad PBUH.

Popat you claim to be a rationalist but here your claim is exposed as mere posturing.

Kashf is a spiritual experience something abstract or intangible.

Now please use your rationality and explain to us how something physical/ tangible can appear from something intangible.
Your rationality cannot explain it.

If you claim to be a miracle, then I may say ok.

Now apply the same principle to Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) in Heaven eating and living!

This is the reason I brought this statement of MGAQ – to see your rationality – no other motive.

Popat at the end I going to give you one more statement of MGAQ, let’s see if you can explain it rationally. I’ll leave that to the last.