Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders
I see you as a cult, very self-centred, very insignificant in world affairs be they spiritual or temporal.
Message of Islam is very simple and clear so that it could be understood by everyone. It doesn’t need deciphering or pseudo rational interpretations to arrive on fundamentals of Beliefs.
We go for the obvious meaning first as Allah made it easy for people to not only recite it, but to understand its meaning as well.
Allah said: “And We have indeed made the Qur’an easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember (or receive admonition)? (Qur’an 54:17)
It is Jewish trait to look for hidden or allegorical meanings and twisting them to suit their desired agenda.
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“As-Suddi (one of the earliest and greatest commentators of the Qur’an) said regarding the verse ‘Woe, then, to those who write the book with their hands and then say: This is from Allah, so that they may take for it a small price’: Some Jews used to write a book from their own whims and sell it to the Arabs, saying that it is from Allah, just to obtain a small price.”* **(Tafseer at-Tabari: 2/270, Maktabah Ibn Taymiyyah)
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“They are a group of Jews, that invited to misguidance with falsehood and by lying about Allah…it is narrated from Ibn Abbas رضي الله عنهما (the greatest commentator of the Qur’an) that the verse ‘Woe, then, to those who write the book with their hands and then say: This is from Allah’, they are the Jewish rabbis, Sa’eed and Qatadah also said it refers to the Jews.” (Tafseer Ibn Kathir: 1/149-150, Dar al-Hadith)
No Muslim after Prophet Muhmmad (saw) claimed to receive Wahi - only imposters did so,
Can you name me on Prophet who wrote books? That too, with tons of contradictions within them?
He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding*. Al Imran: ayah 7
Jews rejected Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) because they are haughty people. They rejected Prophet Muhammad (saw) for the same reasons.
We reject claims of MGAQ because he is miles away from the Criteria Prophet Muhammad (saw) has given to recognise Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) and Mahdi (ra).
You are as far Sunnah of the Prophet (saw) as North Pole is from South Pole.
On this very thread I can show you and Bigboi were very aggressive and nearly name calling – Show me on this thread where brothers psyah, shardmanny or me have been impolite to you guys. Whereas it was you guys were getting a bit personal.
Every religion has criteria to meet to be accepted part of that faith; Ahmadis are following a new prophet completely against the ethos of Islam.
Nobody has pushed you guys out; it’s you guys who have opted out and yet want to be counted in.
In Prophet Muhammad’s (saw) on own time and that of the Companions (may Allah (swt) be pleased with them all) rejected the false claimants of prophet hood and fought them till they were defeated.
You are right Islam doesn’t teach anyone to attack others physically, those zealots who do that are wrong. And this is not acceptable.
Anybody who meets the criteria of a Muslim can go to Hajj.
Ahmadiyat has been around hundred years plus – If it was a true faith, Allah (swt) would have aided it to be dominant over others by sheer force of its truthfulness.
In fact Ahmadiyat has been uprooted from Islamic lands and has taken refuge in the country whose faith MGAQ claimed have destroyed! Do you see the irony?
Do I sense sarcasm here from – **“the way they have lived their lives ? oh okai :).. ** “
They are our role models for Belief and the way they conducted themselves – If you are insidiously implying about riding camels, using swords and living in tents – then you are wrong, as the Noble Prophet (saw) loved positive progress, all the modern progress is based on progress and research made by Muslims.
Yes, **“they were stopped to go to hajj, they were stopped to preach, they were stopped to pray.”
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Since they were on the right faith and with Allah’s (swt) blessing and help they overcame all the obstacles and succeeded beyond anyone’s imagination.