Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

[Mr.Popat]

Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@psyah

Peace Mr.Popat

Bingo! … Hence you are seeing that the term “qad khalat” is a flexible term …

In verse 3:144

Muhammad is no more than an apostle: many Were the apostle that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then Turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah. but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude

Meaning

many prophets have come and gone before him - didn’t you see how they died or were killed, so if he died or was killed …

Peace,
I’m seeing a lot of dishonesty from your side. The verse DOES NOT contain ‘many’ prophets…
qad khalat as you also said CAN mean death. I am asking you how the same term cannot mean death in both of these verses? How does one ‘come and go’ from this world without dying ?

Your own meaning shows that just like how other prophets have ‘come and gone’ and you couldnt explain it in any different way than how it says in the verse, therefore you said ‘didnt you see how they died or were killed’. This actually proves my point. Just like how prophets before Muhammad PBUH have ‘passed away’ or insist of taking its most literal meaning of ‘came and gone’, thats exactly how Muhammad pbuh have ‘came and gone’ too. **The ‘passing away’ is explained by ’ so if he died or was killed . ** Such an easy thing is not getting to you head or you’re just pretending you’re not getting it.

In verse 5:75

Christ the son of Mary was no more than an apostle; many were the apostles that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!

Meaning

Many prophets have come and gone before him - didn’t you see how they all needed to eat, well both his mother and and he needed to eat too …

Here is the context in both verses … that I have put in green … The clause of the verse is governed by the phrase that follows …qad khalat …

Read the verse again !

Allah first says that Jesus was no more than a messenger. Messengers like him have passed away! Now, tell me what was the point of this ?? You are telling me only the example of eating is given by Allah, but do you not see the first part of the verse?? ‘messengers like him have passed away’ ! ! !

In 3:144 verse Allah (SWT) is referring to how previous prophets had died (not all prophets just some previous ones) to cite an example from them and then the words came about his (SAW) death …indicating that it will happen to him (SAW) and for the people to realise he is just a human prophet … because humans die - to think him (SAW) greater than human is wrong.

In verse 5:75 Allah (SWT) is referring to how previous prophets ate food … so why can they not view Isa (AS) as a human prophet because he too ate food …and not to deify him … Because humans eat … not Allah (SWT).

My point was that Allah (SWT) could have said that Isa (AS) was caused to die … but that was not said as the qualifying context … instead “eating” was the chosen attribute of human quality - not the quality death … to me this is because Isa (AS) has not died YET …

Wait a minute!
you said 3:144 verse is referring to some prophets being ‘dead’ ? So, now passing away/ come and gone mean dead to you ? And excuse me for my question, but where did you get that it is saying some prophets died not all ? :S :S

verse 5:75 does not say how previous prophets used to eat food. It specifically says prophets like him have passed away. If you are adding Jesus a.s and His mother with prophets before him who used to eat food ( even if the verse is not including Jesus a.s and his mother with prophets who used to eat, though, not saying prophet didnt use to eat food, ), then you should add Jesus a.s with prophets who passed away as well. You are deliberately ignoring the first part of the verse.