Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

[shardmanny]

Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@Mr.Popat

[5:113] When the disciples said, ‘O Jesus, son of Mary, is thy Lord able to send down to us a table spread with food from heaven?’ he said, ‘Fear Allah, if you are believers.’
[5:114] They said, ‘We desire that we may eat of it, and that our hearts be at rest and that we may know that thou hast spoken truth to us, and that we may be witnesses thereto.’
[5:115] Said Jesus, son of Mary, ‘O Allah, our Lord, send down to us a table from heaven spread with food that it may be to us a festival, to the first of us and to the last of us, and a Sign from Thee; and provide sustenance for us, for Thou art the Best of sustainers.’
[5:116] Allah said, ‘Surely, I will send it down to you, but whosoever of you disbelieves afterwards — I will surely punish them with a punishment wherewith I will not punish any other of the peoples.’

Now, if you read 2 verses before.. you wil see disciples are asking Jesus to ask His lord to send down table of food from heaven. His reply was to fear Allah.
Do you think the table of food was literally sent down from heaven ?
I will not comment on everything that is said in the above verses…but i’ll leave you to think that in the verse, Jesus asked Lord to provide sustenance for ‘us’. Now, if this to you means longevity of life.. or make him live outside Earth then that is non sense. The verse has ‘us’ in it.. and the meaning of provide sustenance to us is to strengthen us in this world, to give us power, to give worldly goods.. which Allah has given to them. Christians were given temporal power over Rome in the beginning as under the Romans and they hold sway now over vast areas of the Earth.

How are you taking ‘provide us sustenance as you are the best of sustainers’? What does that mean to you ? What do I comment about a verse you just copy/pasted without giving your response on what it means to you? I will answer in more detail on this, if this is not enough after you tell me what the verse means to you.

i am not able to make definitive statements from this verse, although i do feel since we believe him to be alive ‘he is the last of them’ and he is the one who made the prayer, down to you can refer to the earth, the earth only, as a start point and heaven, there is denial clauses for the disciples but not him (except if they refused after the warning and then he (alaihis salam) refused), he did not disbelieve after it, the maidah can still be his but the sustenance part of the prayer can be detached from the maidah part aswell.

if you appreciate that we believe Isa Alaihis Salam to be returning you will see the beauty of this part, ie look who made this prayer and look how Allah SWT answered his messengers prayer:
“…a sign from You; and provide us sustenance, for You are the Best of sustainers.”
your right it does say us but theres release clauses (refusal, disbelief, death) for the others but not Isa AS. so us eventually becomes 1 person only

however i am not going to push this on you or argue with you over its interpretation since the variables are too many.