Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@Ibn_Sadique

The Holy Qur’an relates in Chapter Al-Saff (Chapter 61, verses 7-10):

And call to mind when Jesus, son of Mary, said, ‘O Children of Israel, surely, I am Allah’s Messenger unto you, fulfilling that which is before me of the prophecies of the Torah, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger who will come after me, his name being Ahmad… He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that it may cause it to prevail over all religions.
From these verses of the Holy Qur’an we see that Jesus prophesied the coming of Ahmad, who is referred to in the Holy Bible as ‘Paraclete’ or ‘the Comforter’ (John 14:15-26 & 16:7-14). This refers to the Holy Prophet Muhammad’s, may peace and blessing of Allah be upon him, other name ‘Ahmad’ who came and brought the Religion of Truth – Islam - which will ‘prevail over all religions’. That will happen in the time of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, may peace be upon him, and so it is dual prophecy relating to the coming of the Holy Prophet – Ahmad and the fulfilment of the Holy Prophet’s message in the time of the Promised Messiah – Ahmad.

Claims of the Promised Messiah

That is Ahmadi site -

Read Note 3037 (Right at the end) ………………..But as a corollary it may also apply to the promise Messiah, Founder of Ahmadiyyah Movement, because he has also been called Ahmad in Divine revelation (Barahin Ahmadiyya) and because also in his person the second Manifestation of the Holy Prophet……………..

The Holy Quran

See how cunningly Ghulam Ahmad has been transformed into Ahmad - I rest my case. .

Popat I don’t think you were ignorant of the above, if you were pretending not knowing the above then you were being devious and if you knew the above and was pretending not knowing it you were being dishonest.

@Mr.Popat

‘Muslim scholars’ have authenticated them .. oh ok.. and ahadith contradicting Quran have been rejected..
Thats what Hz Ahmad(as) said too. We reject ahadith which contradict Quran and whatever hadith contradicts Quran contradicts His wahi. Since we believe in him AS a prophet, His wahi does not contradict Quran..
Your scholars did the same thing what Hz Ahmad (as) said. Quran first..to explain Quran, we need ahadith.. any hadith which contradict Quran will contradict His wahi.. since His wahi is in accordance to Quran and not according to ahadith. Ahadith are used to explain Quran.

The job of authenticating the ahadith had been done by the eminent classical Islamic scholars, so there was no need to re-authenticate the ahadith.

Mr MGAQ’s criteria for the authenticating the ahadith was not the checking if the ahadith contradicted the Quran but the WAHI which comes to him!!!

The basis for our claims is not Hadith but Quran and that Wahi which comes to me. Yes, in support we also present those Hadith which are according to Quran and DO NOT CONTRADICT MY WAHI. Rest of the Hadith, I THROW THEM AWAY LIKE A WASTE PAPER." (Roohani Khazain vol.19 p.140)

So his criteria to authenticate the ahadith had nothing to do with the Quran. In fact his ‘WAHI’ contradicted the Quran!!!

Islam had been perfected and completed in the life time of Prophet Muhammad (saw). The following ayah confirms this:

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This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed My favor on you and chosen for you Islam as a religion 5:3***

Refer to the commentary by very eminent Ahmadi scholar (Sher Ali) of the above ayah:

Note 721 Ikmal (perfecting) and Itmam (completing) are noun-infinitives, the first relating to quality and the second to quantity. The first word shows that doctrines and the commandments affecting the physical, moral and spiritual development of man have been embodied in the Quran in their most perfect form; while the second signifies that nothing which was needed by man has been left out. Again the former word pertains to commandments relating to the self. The perfection and the completion of God’s religion and favour have been mentioned side by side with laws relating to eatables in order to point out that the use of lawful and good food forms one of the very important bases of good morals which in turn provide a pedestal for spiritual progress. Incidentally, the verse was the last to be revealed, the Holy Prophet having died only 82 days after its revelation.

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Now refer to the following statement of Mr.** MGAQ **

“My teachings contain orders as well as prohibitions and renovation of important injunctions of the Shari’at. For this reason God has named my teachings and the ‘WAHI’ (revelations) that comes to me as a 'boat. Thus see, God has declared my ‘wahi’, my teachings and allegiance with me to be Noah’s Ark and the basis of salvation for all human beings. Let he who has eyes may see and he who has ears may hear.” (Arba’een, Vol. 4, footnote of page 6; Roohani Khazain, Vol. 17, p. 435).

He has the audacity to amend what had been perfected and completed by Allah Almighty Himself!!!

What an impudence and effrontery to Allah Almighty. Allah (swt) clearly states in the Quran the Islam was perfected and completed in the life time of Prophet Muhammad (saw) and here Mr MGAQ is adding and subtracting from what is deemed complete and perfect!!!

Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) will neither add to nor subtract anything from Islam. He will correct the wayward Muslims to the correct beliefs. (Shias will be advised to give up concept of Imamate and cursing the blessed companions of the Prophet (saw) (may Allah be pleased with them all); those who visit graves of saints seeking help will be corrected to turn to Allah (swt) for help; those who follow ‘cultural Islam’ will be made to follow Islam as taught by the Prophet (saw) and practiced by his blessed companions (may Allah be pleased with them all).

Mr MGAQ claimed prophet hood for himself contrary to Islamic beliefs; whereas Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as)will be universal Islamic leader and even though he being a prophet prior to advent of Prophet Muhammad (saw) he will not claim it or practice it.