Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@Mr.Popat

You are being dishonest here. I explained it earlier that Allah has promised to keep Quran safe, NOT ahadith. Out of 100,000’s of ahadith, imam Bukhari chose couple of thousands after having researched a lot about their authenticity. Quran is the basis , to expand the understanding of what Quran has to say, we use ahadith to understand the context of Quran in a better way.

How am I being dishonest? Yes, Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim and others have done the job and have authenticated the ahadith – Authentication of ahadith has been done.

If you read my posts, all of them, I have been consistent in saying that first point of reference is the Quran and then ahadith.

By referring to the Quran first doesn’t give us license or free hand to speculate on the ayahs. We refer to the authentic ahadith to see what Prophet Muahammad (saw) had commented on that ayah; and if find his authentic sayings on that particular ayah then – No Speculations and Psuedo-intellectual somersaultings.

You call that being dishonest? Coming from you, I don’t mind in the least.

@Mr.Popat

Now, any hadith contradicting Quran must be questioned for their authenticity.

Alhamdulilah authentication of hadith has been done looooooooooong time ago by very pious and upright people.

@Mr.Popat

His Wahi was a direct revelation from Allah, which was in accordance to Quran. Him being a prophet, ofcourse He has the authority to tell you which hadith is and is not legit. I see nothing wrong in that. You should not either. Jesus a.s would have done exactly the same if he was to come

So has these WAHI (revelations) been preserved in book form, just like the WAHI on Prophet Muhammad (saw) has been preserved in form of Quran?

Since this is Wahi – direct message from Allah (swt) – so it has to be on par with the Quran, right?

What do you call this book, Quran serial two?

By the way, you forgot to answer the name of the angel commissioned to bring the WAHI to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad; please can we have that name?

@Mr.Popat

Our standard is Quran first and every hadith is true as long as it is in accordance to Quran. It should be the same for you too. Quran first, then anything else.

This has been the standard of Muslims from day one.

@Mr.Popat

Anyone can claim that they understood Quran the way it should be understood. But its just a claim ! to prove this, you must show that your interpretation of any verse does not contradict with any other verse of Quran. I guarantee you our interpretation does not contradict with any of the verse from Quran as we see Quran in its entirety.

If you believe in Mesopotamia; I am in no need of your guarantees ;).

A lot has been said I don’t any more can be added – most of time it was very repetitive.

Just have a last fling, please inform us about:

1. Since this is Wahi – direct message from Allah (swt) – so it has to be on par with the Quran, right? What do you call this book, Quran serial two?

2. By the way, you forgot to mention the name of the angel commissioned to bring the WAHI to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad; please can we have that name?

If you say Jabrail (as) (I see you just said it - reference from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad for this? Are you sure he said Gabrail, no other name? You can’t lie in his name.