Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

[Mr.Popat]

Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@psyah

Peace Mr.Popat

I’m not going to let this go …

You are saying

“Therein (Earth) you shall live” means that “no one can live outside Earth” ??? This is your interpretation … you see you initially said you are taking references from the Qur’an only, but in reality you are still putting your own thoughts on them.

I told you this already there is no tawkeed in this verse to make it “binding” … The translation is not “you can ONLY live on Earth” - It is a general rule not an absolute one …

It is really strange that you feel the Qur’an says that “no one can live outside the Earth” yet from the Ahmadiyya website we see that you readily promote extra-terrestrial life and say that the Qur’an predicts a future encounter with alien life forms … why are you contradicting the website, perhaps your common sense is better than the people who made your website?

The Quran and Extraterrestrial Life

For more explicit PROOF that people can live outside the Earth … see this:

O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority [from Allah ].

Surat Ar-Rahman [55:33] - The Noble Qur’an - ??? ???

In Surah Rahman - this verse states that people can pass by authority from Allah (SWT) … i.e. Allah (SWT) makes exceptions for some … in other words Isa (AS) can be an exception in one manner of speaking as were those astronauts exceptions in another manner of speaking …

Your interpretation denies Isa (AS) to live outside Earth, but also everyone else and it contradicts your own website …

Peace,

I’m not gonna let this go either. I want you explaining this verse the way you understand it then.

Yes, because Quran says therein shall we live. That’s how i’m taking it as. We “AS HUMANS” are bound to “live” on this Earth. Did i deny the possibility of any other ‘creature’ outside of Earth? No, i did not. If you read a verse before *7:25.. it is like this : He said, ‘Go forth, some of you being enemies of others. And for you there is an abode on the earth and a provision for a time.’ then 7:25 itself is : He said, ‘Therein shall you live, and therein shall you die, and therefrom shall you be brought forth.’
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Now, if you keep insisting that i’m emphasizing that no one can live outside of this earth, then yes, i only say what Quran is telling me. No human being can live outside of this Earth. For one to be alive outside of this Earth is by means of taking earthly stuff with them.

Let me break it down for you so you can understand.

1. you claim to be a follower of the holy book Quran
2. When a verse if presented to you negating your belief, you start questioning the verse itself, rather than interpreting it properly ( if you think im doing it wrong ).
3. On one hand, Allah is saying ‘therein shall you live’, on another hand you’re asking ME if no one can live outside of Earth.
4. I said, if you question me based on the Quranic verse, you’re not questioning me but rather the validity of the verse.

Yes, I’m an ahmadi.. and unlike some sects of Islam, we are told and encouraged to ponder upon the beliefs which our leaders have set based on Quran and ahadith and if we have even an iota of doubt, we can ask them from anything to everything. Alhamdulillah, we do not keep saying yes yes to anything or any belief told to us blindly.. we are encouraged to research more about it and ask the higher authorities of any doubts concerning any belief. The book you quoted above is a great one. Keep reading! .. theres no point talking about it since i NEVER denied the possibility of life in any other planet (wont be humans). Though, here we’re talking about HUMANS. Read 7:24-25. I’m not more intelligent than the ones who have written books.. but my views are certainly parallel to what they have said, as far as I know. And i do research in my spare time to have more knowledge about certain topics..

Again, the verse you quoted, I HAVE an answer to that.. but really, i told you not to unknowingly have enmity against Quran. Your this behaviour may led non muslims to mock at quran saying that it has contradictions. On one hand Allah says u cannot live outside of this earth, and then on another hand hes telling you to pass beyond the regions of heavens and earth. Like I said, I DO have an answer to that.. but at this point I want you explaining why God said ‘therein shall you live’ ?

Bringing another verse in response to another verse shows that quran has contradictions. Clear one verse with me then ill tell you what the verse you mentioned means.