Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@Mr.Popat

We are NOT talking about Jamaat. If you have something to refute my arguments about Isa a.s death.. you’re more than welcome to talk to me with Quran and ahadith or else writing paragraphs after paragraphs is of no benefit to you.
Keep all your claims about false prophet or whatever to yourself and learn to be polite and respectful towards other people’s holy leaders. Just because you do not believe in someone does not give you the licence to say whatever that comes to your mind. I humbly request you to watch your words please..

Please show me where I have used Derogatory language against ‘other peoples’ holy leaders?

@Mr.Popat

You see, you are the one full of contradiction. NO vacancy available.. and yet Jesus a.s CAN come.. Either tell me that theres no prophet after Muhammad PBUH, and accept Isa a.s’s death. OR dont say theres no vacancy. There sure is. You believe it to be so. Now, thats your definition that the same Jesus a.s will come back. See, the belief of mine is on different than yours. Only problem is the personality.

Go read what I said. I said No Vacancy for an imposter and that assignment had been per-booked by Divine Will.

Yes my belief and that of Muslims is different from yours.

@Mr.Popat

Huh?! Come again?
Isa a.s is prophet wheresoever he is. He a.s is also a prophet to bani israel ONLY. Quran is the ultimate book. It refers to isa a.s as prophet of bani israel so manyyyy times ! So he’s a messenger and allah did not cancel his prophethood.. ok .. now , he wont be coming as a messenger ? :S.. Confusion confusion. :halo:

Hz. Isa (as) is a messenger of Allah (swt).
Allah (swt) has assigned him two commissions

1. Allah’s messenger to Bani Israel
2. On his second advent as Islamic leader.

That’s how Allah (swt) has Willed it. If you have a problem with it then you have problem with Will of Allah (swt).

Yet again I have to repeat myself.

@Ibn_Sadique

Popat either you are confused or playing with words.

Facts are as follows:

Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) has been appointed as a messenger by Allah (swt) and was sent specifically to the Israelites. (Bani Israel).
That was his mission till Allah(swt) raised him to Himself.

Allah (swt) did not cancel Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum’s (as) Status as messenger of Allah just as He not done with previous messengers (asa).

Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) will be sent back as an Islamic leader and not as a messenger by Allah when He wills it.

There are hundreds of authentic hadith about the second coming of Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as).

All the Companions of the Messenger of Allah (swt) (May Allah be pleased with them all – Hz. Ayeisha(ra) is included here) were aware of the facts of the second coming of Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as).

The following narration is attributed to – Hz. Ayeisha(ra):

"Say he is ‘seal of prophets’ but do NOT say ‘there is no prophet after him’

The above statement clearly states that she is advising and reminding the people that though Hz. Muhammad (saw) is the last Messenger of Allah Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) who is a messenger will be coming in the end of times.

They were also well aware that this time around he will be coming as an Islamic leader and not as messenger.

And nowhere in the ahadith literature will Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) ever claim that his status is that of a messenger.

Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) will follow the Shariah and Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (saw) – adding nothing to it nor subtracting anything from it.

Compare this to the claims of Mr. Ghulam Ahamd:

1. He claimed to be mujadid
2. He Claimed to the Mahdi
3. He claimed to be Jesus (as)
4. He Claimed to be a Prophet
5. He claimed to be Prophet Muhammad
6. He Claimed to receive Wahi – This is direct Words of Allah (swt) thus making revelations to him on par with the Quran

Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) will not make above claims apart from No. 3 (Obviously)

There you said it – You Believe Mr Ghulam Ahmad to be a Prophet – And He did claim to be so – And he did add and subtract from what Prophet Muhammad (saw) had brought!!

We, Muslims will question, challenge and oppose any imposter to the claim of prophet hood.

Sorry, it’s other way around – We have given you evidence from Quran and a lot of supporting ahadith to prove without a shadow of doubt that Hz. Jesus (as) is Alive and in a secure place where Allah (swt) has chosen for him.

You stance is against that what held by Muslims. It’s the Ahmadiyya jamaat that is ignoring the Quran and all the ahadith literature wherein there is irrefutable evidence of Hz. Isa Ibn Maryum (as) is alive and that second coming will be when Allah (swt) Wills it.