Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@Mr.Popat

I’m telling you myself that Quran is the answer to your every question. It explains itself. You are the one who takes one verse and interpret it your way and then dont think about anythingggg else that Quran has to say… everything else to you is an ‘exception’ or a ‘miracle’. I’m looking at the whole Quran for sure. You are not. Your interpretation contains contradiction with other verses. Mine does not.

(also refer back to my reply above)

You don’t have to tell me that Quran is answer to my every question. Allah (swt) says so!

Yes, the Quran speaks for itself but to understand one has to use the following criterion:

I am repeating myself again.

@Ibn_Sadique

First of all Quran explains itself

Secondly we use the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw) to understand the Quran

Thirdly we use the Ijma As-Sahabah (How Sahabah (raa) understood the Quran as taught to them by the Prophet (saw).

Fourthly, Qiyas and Ijtihad .

Ponder over the words of Hz. Ali ibn Abu Talib (ra):

The Qur’an, is but ink and paper, and it does not speak for itself. Instead, it is human beings who give effect to it according to their limited personal judgments and opinions.”

*“In one such report members of the Khawarij accused ‘Ali of accepting the judgment and dominion (hakimiyya) of human beings instead of abiding by the dominion of God’s law. Upon hearing of this accusation, ‘Ali called upon the people to gather around him and brought a large copy of the Qur’an. ‘Ali touched the Qur’an while instructing it to speak to the people and inform them about God’s law.

Surprised, the people gathered around ‘Ali exclaimed, “What are you doing? The Qur’an cannot speak, for it is not a human being!” Upon hearing this, ‘Ali exclaimed that this was exactly his point.

The Qur’an, ‘Ali explained, is but ink and paper, and it does not speak for itself. Instead, it is human beings who give effect to it according to their limited personal judgments and opinions.”
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Shihab al-Din Ibn Hajar al-‘Asqalani, Fath al-Bari bi Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari (Beirut: Dar al-Fikr, 1993), 14:303.

It is you who is having difficulties in understanding miracles in the Quran and are limiting the ability of Allah (swt) to do anything He wants.

Allah (swt) take up to heavens ALIVE Anyone He wants; Sustain him as He wants.

What He wishes all He has to say “BE” and Lo! It is. It’s that easy! And yet you deny it.

Miracles happen when Allah (swt) breaks rules He has set for His creation. He is free and is not bound by these rule and is free of them.

@Mr.Popat

Islam surely is a faith of purity. It is people like you who have made it seemed like a fairytale.. I’m here showing the pure side of Islam…and you’re insisting on believing in a belief which has no room in Islam but merely believing because you’ve been told to. Sad!
There you go. Ghamdi, a perfect example. Have whatever perception of jamaat you like. But accept atleast from Quran what its telling you.

So Miracles of Quran are fairytales to you?

So to you purity in Islam is to believe that Hz. Adam (as) was born in Mesopotamia and Mr. Iblis (the cursed one) was a man in Mesopotamia and was a trouble maker?

Ghamdi says some nice things but he moves away from what the Prophet (saw) had said and relies on his own rationality I won’t agree with him. It’s nothing to do if he views converge with that of Ahmadis.

If you say Allah (swt) is One; I won’t disagree with you just because you are an Ahmadi.