Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders
Although I knew about this belief as well and it make sense to me.. but this again is not proof from your side to disagree with my understanding of the verse. In fact, showing this would further strengthen what I’m saying in a sense that Adam did not stay in the heaven in which people go after their death. I was merely trying to debate solely on the basis of your own belief. Yes, every human is ‘born’. But thats our belief.. and we can talk more about that in detail. I have no issue with that. But you cannot use this in your favor in any way. This belief itself further agree to my belief that humans are to live in this earth and die on this earth.
Yep. In general sense the verse hints that no human being can ascend to heaven in his physical body. Why are you talking about an exceptional case anyway? You are the one creating the case of Jesus as exceptional. In general, no human being can leave the Earth with his physical body and still remain alive without proper equipment (oxygen cylinders,food whatever).
What quranic hadith do you want for my understanding ? I have told you how in Quran Allah denied Muhammad PBUH to go to heavens to bring down a book. I have shown you that it is impossible for the prophet to put ladder to heaven to bring down a sign.. I have given 2 direct verses of Quran, one mentioning Muhammad PBUH and prophets before him dead, and another verse in which Messiah has been told dead like other prophets before him.. Unfortunately you choose to ignore part of things what I say and comment on whatever you feel is relevant.
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exceptional circumstance why? who is making it exceptional ? Even in the most exceptional case, you cannot live outside the Earth. It is an absolute truth which needs no proof. Rather the proof of burden of someone living outside of this earth and still being alive without the needs of things which humans require to survive there… well then my friend.. it is you who needs to answer me!
Allah does not eat.
Allah said that jesus cannot be god because he and his mother ‘used to’ eat.
Meaning, for him to be divine, he needs not to eat..but he did eat and he and his mother used to eat.
Now, you are telling Allah.. that his reasoning of eating or not eating doesnt make sense. Isa a.s is alive and does not eat. How according to you is he not divine then ?
He used to eat. He does not eat now. Whoever does not eat and still alive and will always remain alive is one and only Allah. But you’re creating this huge exception to such an extent that you do not worry about yourself committing shirk!
May Allah save me from creating or believing in an atom’s worth of shirk.