Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

[Mr.Popat]

Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@psyah

Peace Mr.Popat

I am having to respond to you post 135 in bits … I don’t want miss anything you see.

Firstly, I don’t understand how you can even entertain the notion that Allah (SWT) forgot any exception based on what I write … Because all along I have been stating that the exceptions … Many in this case are inherent in the verses themselves, that you are claiming are absolute and all encompassing. The typical example was 7:25 … There should be ample reason to conclude for you now that this verse is not PROOF that is binding on EVERY human, rather there seems to be only a trend present for most humans … The Arabic confirms the observed case, where people have lived in space, and people have been brought back to life as brother Ibn Sadique mentioned and it allows for Ascension of Isa (AS) too … which is the crux of this argument.

Then we come back to the verses regarding Ascension … And see they can indeed be interpreted as we are interpreting them.

What is it that you do not understand?
People can live in water too..but that is not a place for humans to live. People CAN live outside the earth too, but with proper equipment with them. Show me an incident in which a human lived in space without the need of oxygen. Also, once dead, ( not sleep ), Allah does not return soul back to the body. Allah will raise him only on the day of resurrection. Do you realize, just to prove my understanding wrong, you are infact saying stuff which Islam does not even allow?

Much of what you have mentioned above is indeed shirk … Attributing it all to us is a lie from you …keep away from it … Isa (as) is said to have performed miracles as with many other prophets (AS) .. The fact that they were doing the miracles is logically accidental … The reality is they were instructed to perform them and the results from them were from Allah (SWT). So we say miracles are made by Allah (SWT) where a vessel such as a prophet will often be a mediator for them.

The fact that Isa (AS) ate is enough to prove his mortality … Even if he no longer ever eats again … It cannot be escaped that he ate something … Also the same refers to him having a mother and a starting point. This also proves his mortality … (AS) … You say this often … 2012 years of age … Bla bla bla BUT that does not constitute anywhere near the example of no beginning and no end … How ridiculous is this comparison you are making???

Even if we claim say mr. X will live for 1000,000 years but then die, we are not making him Divine, because The Deity does not die … never not even eventually …

All else i dont think needs a response. You said even if he no longer eats again.. what is it that you’re trying to tell here? if he no longer eats.. then you have either 2 of the possibilities left. 1) either he’s dead 2) he is divine, since Allah alone is the one who does not need food to remain. Do you not think by tongue you’re not doing shirk but by having this belief you are ?