Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

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Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@Mr.Popat

Allah does not change his sunnah. By this I also mean that His sunnah within the Quran is unchangeable as well. Laws are told in Quran and exceptions are also told in Quran. Law of humans living on Earth alone is told in Quran, and no verse which shows an exception can be seen in Quran. Allah was well aware of what he was revealing to Muhammad PBUH. **Allah did not nauzubillah forget to add exception if there indeed was any. **

Frankly, even if i answer this, its not going to help. The real question that should be tackled is that why should we name an incident a ‘miracle’ when Allah says he will not do it.. and we find no such exception in this regard at all , that a person goes to heaven alive and come back alive, without taking into consideration anything. If you like to give me a single answer about the incident being ‘miracle’ then that is your own understanding and not from Quran.

Peace Mr.Popat

I am having to respond to you post 135 in bits … I don’t want miss anything you see.

Firstly, I don’t understand how you can even entertain the notion that Allah (SWT) forgot any exception based on what I write … Because all along I have been stating that the exceptions … Many in this case are inherent in the verses themselves, that you are claiming are absolute and all encompassing. The typical example was 7:25 … There should be ample reason to conclude for you now that this verse is not PROOF that is binding on EVERY human, rather there seems to be only a trend present for most humans … The Arabic confirms the observed case, where people have lived in space, and people have been brought back to life as brother Ibn Sadique mentioned and it allows for Ascension of Isa (AS) too … which is the crux of this argument.

Then we come back to the verses regarding Ascension … And see they can indeed be interpreted as we are interpreting them.

@Mr.Popat

Miracles were understood the wrong way because it challenged the attributes Allah alone has. What is shirk? Shirk is not only associating partners to Allah but also saying that such and such attributes which are only found in Allah can ALSO be found in this ONE man. You have Isa a.s as an example. Allah does not eat to stay alive… all humans need food to stay alive BUT Jesus. Allah alone is the bringer of death and life… No other human can or had done that BUT Jesus. Allah has no beginning no ending.. all humans have beginning and ending, but Jesus is still alive for 2012 years and who knows how long hes going to be staying alive…and many more of the attributes of Allah which you associate not with any other human being but Jesus A.S alone.. It is an issue of shirk.. keep away from it. No miracle is big enough for a person to have attributes that ONLY God is limited to.

Much of what you have mentioned above is indeed shirk … Attributing it all to us is a lie from you …keep away from it … Isa (as) is said to have performed miracles as with many other prophets (AS) .. The fact that they were doing the miracles is logically accidental … The reality is they were instructed to perform them and the results from them were from Allah (SWT). So we say miracles are made by Allah (SWT) where a vessel such as a prophet will often be a mediator for them.

The fact that Isa (AS) ate is enough to prove his mortality … Even if he no longer ever eats again … It cannot be escaped that he ate something … Also the same refers to him having a mother and a starting point. This also proves his mortality … (AS) … You say this often … 2012 years of age … Bla bla bla BUT that does not constitute anywhere near the example of no beginning and no end … How ridiculous is this comparison you are making???

Even if we claim say mr. X will live for 1000,000 years but then die, we are not making him Divine, because The Deity does not die … never not even eventually …