Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders
Now, if the companions present on this occasion thought that Hadhrat JesusAS had been alive in Heaven for 600 years, they would have stood up and pointed out to Hadhrat Abu Bakrra, that it was wrong to say that all the earlier prophets had died. If Hadhrat JesusAS could remain alive, why not the Holy ProphetSAW? All the companions who heard this verse (3:145) and heard Hadhrat Abu Bakrra’s argument based upon the verse, not only remained silent but began to rejoice over it and went about the town reciting it. This proves beyond doubt that the companions agreed with Hadhrat Abu Bakr’sAS interpretation of the verse that all prophets before the Holy ProphetSAW had died.
The hadith you presented prove Muhammad pbuh’s death but does not say Jesus a.s is still alive.
Mr.Popat – Please go back and read my post again, this time very slowly, word by word.
You are deliberately side-stepping the main crux of point – Now i feel how frustrating it was for brother psyah to debate with you. You tend to go round in circles and your strategy seems to grind down the other person to boredom with repetitive arguments.
I’ll quote myself AGAIN for your benefit:
Ibn_Sadique:
You are wrong here again – Nobody claimed that Sahabah (May Allah be pleased with them all) could have said that if Jesus (as) can be alive, so can Muhammad (saw).
At the death of Prophet Muhammad (saw) All the Quran had been revealed and the Noble Prophet (saw) had uttered all the hadith. Everything was complete – from then on nothing could be added to Islam and nothing taken out.
The Companoins (May Allah be pleased with them all) were at this point well informed about special status and position of Jesus (as) – They were well aware that Jesus had not died and been taken up by Allah (swt) (this is in Quran) and will come back again in the end of times.(This is from Hadith)
And that they had just witnessed the death of Prophet Muhammad (saw) and were aware the Jesus (as) had not died so the following reaction from Hz. Umar bin Al Khattab (ra).
‘Umar, who was so stunned that he almost lost consciousness and stood before people addressing them: “Some of the hypocrites claim that the Messenger of Allâh sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam died. The Messenger of Allâh did not die, but went to his Lord in the same way as Moses bin ‘Imran did. He stayed away for forty nights, but finally came back though they said he had been dead. By Allah, the Messenger of Allâh will come back and he will cut of the hands and legs of those who claim his death*.” [Ibn Hisham, 2/655]
You can see that Hz. Umar bin Al Khattab (ra) mentioned the Prophet one before Jesus (as).
Hz. Umar bin Al Khattab (ra) knew that Prophet (saw) and Hz. Musa (as) had tasted death whereas Jesus (as)
HAD NOT died and that Allah (swt) had taken him up.
So it is your Jamaat’s beliefs that are indirect conflict with the Beliefs of Sahabah (May Allah be pleased with them all)