Details of interpreting verses from the Qur'an and obvious blunders

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Re: Details of interpreting verses from the Qur’an and obvious blunders

@kchughtai

For ‘All’, ‘Kul’ is not always necessary. You know that very well. For instance, ‘Rab un Naas’ (sustainer of ALL the people , ‘Rab ul Aalameen’ (sustainer of All the worlds). ‘All’ is implicit in these statements. There are other examples as well.

Peace kchughtai,

“un” and “ul” both means “all”? I never know that. Hence the translation which is more suitable is 'sustainer of the peoples, sustainer of the worlds

@kchughtai

my two cents on 3:144)

verse says “**And Muhammad is only a Messenger. Verily, Messengers have passed away before him. If then he die or be slain, will you turn back on your heels? And he who turns back on his heels shall not harm Allah at all. And Allah will certainly reward the grateful.”

**In this verse, example of earlier messengers has been used to prove that prophet Muhammad(pbuh) is just a messenger of Allah. Messengers before him have passed away so his(pbuh) case will not be different than theirs. There could be only two possibilities that are listed i.e, either he dies naturally or gets killed. No third possibility. The two possibilities listed actually explains ‘QAD KHALAT’.
Now at the time of the passing away of the holy prophet (pbuh), some of the companions including hazrat umar(ra) refused to accept the fact the holy prophet has died and claimed that he will come back and take care of the ‘munafiqeen’. Hazrat Abu bakr(ra) came forward and recited this very verse. The effect was sudden and decisive. Each one of the companions understood and accepted the fact that the holy prophet (pbuh) has indeed passed away. No one came up with the idea of finding exceptions in this verse for him. No one presented the example of Isa(as) or anyone else believed to have passed this world without dying. Each one of them understood just after listening to the verse that the prophet (pbuh) has passed away. This event is the first concensus among the companions after the prophet (pbuh) not only on his death but on the death of all the messengers before him. If there was room for exceptional departure for Isa(as), the attestation on the death of the prophet(pbuh) would have been incomplete.

Peace kchughtai,

I never read that Hazrat Umar r.a. claimed that he will come back and take care of the ‘munafiqeen’. In fact i read and heard that Hazrat Umar r.a. said 'if anyone said Prophet Muhammad passed away I’ll take off his neck".

Sometime the way of presenting (usage of words) change the whole passage.

The verse primarily applies to the battle of Uhad, in the course of which a cry was raised that the Prophet was slain. He had indeed been severely wounded, but Hazrat Talha, Hazrat Abu Bakar and Hazrat Ali r.a. were at his side, and his own unexampled bravery saved the Muslim army from a rout. This verse was recalled again by Hazrat Abu Bakar r.a. when the Prophet actually died a natural death eight years later, to remind people that Almighty Allah, Whose Message He brought, lives for ever and we have need to remember this now and often for two reasons:

**1- **When we feel inclined to pay more than human honour to one who was the truest, the purest, and the greatest of men, and thus in a sense to compound for our forgetting the spirit of his teaching and

**2- **When we feel depressed at the chances and changes of time, and forget that the eternal Almighty Allah lives and watches over us and over all His creatures row as in all history in the past and in the future.