DESIS who think we are snotty lazy westerners?

True, it is best to stay in your own home if you have one back home, or with direct relatives (chachu/mamoo/khala etc.) However I know in my family it is expected that you visit distant relatives in other cities besides your home town, so you end up staying with distant cousins etc. I guess if you really don't like being there, then one just shouldn't go. Save yourself & others trouble by staying where a person prefers...

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common sense on all sides and cultural understanding on all sides is critical, and more so for the one visiting whether it is someone going from UK to Pakistan or from Islamabad to shikarpur or from hyderabad to sydney.

learn, understand, communicate, accommodate..and at the same time dont let guests or hosts railroad you either.

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Nadz123,
If you guys arent interested to come then you shouldnt. Majority of the times its the family's own interest to come - find a suitable match for their kid, do shopping before an upcoming wedding, bring children to Pakistan for them to know their roots & family here. I am sorry i dont think any of you explicitly spend 9000 pounds for some favourite cousin of yours in pakistan. You spend it for yourselves or your parents. If any of your random chachi mameen cousin asked you to come to Pakistan, would you plan a 9000 pounds trip for her? No you wouldnt! You would plan it when if you need to shop, there is some wedding your parents want to be part of, your parents force you or what ever reasons.

Also, If you have issues with the servants, why blame the hospitality of the pakistanis in general? You guys are just thankless. Our families go crazy being hospitable for you guys and when we all go, the least we ask for is time and that too isnt available!

BECAUSE PAKISTANIS IN GENERAL have shown this attitude, not the servants, did you not manage to read the entire post. just like you guys come over here and ask for our time and apparently you have had bad exp where time isnt availble. AND YOU just generalised too...we give all our time to our guests...my dad does takwe time off work...SO have no idea who ur talking about.if thats your family abroad then fair enough....i was talking of the families i visit and the people i come across

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If you guys arent interested to come then you shouldnt. Majority of the times its the family's own interest to come - find a suitable match for their kid, do shopping before an upcoming wedding, bring children to Pakistan for them to know their roots & family here. I am sorry i dont think any of you explicitly spend 9000 pounds for some favourite cousin of yours in pakistan. You spend it for yourselves or your parents.

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exactly. who's holding a gun to your head?

no, we find the perfect match for a british passport....!!!! :]

:rotfl:

If the family you come from is like this, please do not generalize to all PAKISTANIS.

@nadz

Can't realte to what you have written... Usually I always look forward to go to Pakistan. It's a completly different environment and people. I like the "easy-going" lifestyle. And as far as I have seen peolple get up late (apart from those who get up in the morning to do their prayers).

I always used to get up at around 11 to 12 AM and then my Khala would ask me what I want for breakfast and stuff like this.

Even if I would press my clothes or something then my cousin would say "Mujhe dedo mai press kardeti hoon" (though she is older then me).

They never seemed to be annoyed of me or never said that I'm lazy.

So when I go to Pakistan I really enjoy it.

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^ yea. My family are nice.

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Ok well I am going to give my views and experiences on my visits to pakistan and the visits from the family to UK.

When i went pakistan I do admit I got the royalty treament from the family back there and I really do appreciate the hospitality however when the same relatives came here, myself, my parents, sibling and generally all the relatives that are here in UK went totally out of their way. Everyone took time off from work considering it is not always easy getting time off especially at the last minute but we still all managed to somehow.

In our house there was always someone coming or going, taking them out where ever they wished to go, got all their shopping done for them, my family and relatives here did not let them pay a penny for anything, i cant think of anything they did not do or get.
However when these so-called rishtaydar went back to pakistan, they said the opposite to the rest of the family, how they had an awful time, how we didnt care for them enough, I was bog smacked, i have never heard such lies in my life. We had done so much for them and no appreciation, i mean forget appreciation, they bad mouthed everyone.

When we go to pakistan, myself and my family cook and clean for ourselves eventhough we do have people their to do everything for us.We just dont feel that anyone should do our work when we are totally capable of doing it ourself, we dont have servants here and we do everything ourself then why cant we do the same there.

When we go pakistan, we go to my dads house and my mum does everything cooking etc only thing she dont do is the cleaning in which she gets help from the servants. However our relatives come to visit us at our own house and we give them as much hospitaly as they do to us but the only difference is that we dont take the advantage of being treated good and then go behind their backs and say how bad or rubbish we were treated.
I am sorry to say and I am not generalising or anything because i know theres good and bad everywhere whether its UK Usa or Pakistan, but from my experience with people from Pakistan, what you see is not what you get. Ofcourse not everyone is able to afford to come and visit us here and i am not talking about people that cannot afford, i am talking about people in pakistan who are very well off and settled and can afford. Like when i went pakistan, my parents hired a mini bus so that we could visit all the places we wanted to go see and site seeing and also that we could take the relatives who already live there with us so they can also have a good time with us (at our expence by the way) we did not have to take them along with us but they insisted on coming (which we didnt say no to because we are not that rude). So as far as hospitality goes, us "westerners" do not do any less then people in pakistan (and i am putting this very politely, you dont wanna hear the worst of what pakistani people are capable of, again this is from my own experience, not one experience but quite a few).

Yes nadz may have generalised from her experience of what happened to her when she went but that does not mean that she thinks that way about everyone and im sure when she goes next time and stays else where, she might have a totally different experience which may change her views. Now come and slaughter me because i put my views across

Thats so true

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So in this thread we see:

those who get the royal treatment when they go to pakistan.
those who get the crap treatment when they got o pakistan
those who give the royal treatment to guests from pakistan.
those who give crap treatment to guests from pakistan.

so conclusion, itall really depends on YOUR family and circle...thats it

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The best solution is go to Pak every 3/4 years and in between have a 'real' holiday then you wont begrudge anyone anything, it works for us!

That's a really neat conclusion:) And I agree, it depends on your family and circle. So people please stop saying Pakistani people this and Pakistani people that...just based on your experiences with *your *family.