Desi people

Why is that desi people have high cholesterol and are more prone to diabetes comparatively?

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kyoon goron ko diabates nahi hoti? they do hav higher number of diabetics.

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Dude, have you even looked at our diet.

Haven’t you heard the common tip that’s given to people learning to cook desi food on how to know if they’re salan has finished cooking?..“When the oil rises to the surface, your cooking is complete.” :hehe:

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ppl dont get their cholesterol checked as often in the west
ppl go to check their blood pressure daily in pak...

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thats not true.

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Heres my theory after seeing what has become of some people in UK...

Back home all the grease and oily food was good for you... I feasted like a King and I still do... but weather as well as work helped reduce the fat and cholesterol build up.

In Britain all most desi people do is work that is nothing like as hard as what thier fellows in Pakistan used to do... most of the 40s and over squad have just become couch patatoes the women sit around as do the men.

I'm not saying all desis are lazy but the sort of work you do in relation to what your forebears did is frankly very little.

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You are what you eat. Desi food is one of the worst, most unhealthy diets in the world. But it’s so tasty! :naak:

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There are no stats to substantiate it.......just a blatant generalisation...

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It’s unhealthy if you have a poor lifestyle… I.E dont do much hard labour… etc

If your the sort of person that practically breaks thier back every day just to get to the table then that supposedly unhealthy food is what keeps you going 24/7 :champ:

Your right again… on a roll today. :k:

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^He’s wrong..

Anyone who has studied medicine would know these are facts, not just generalisations and you won’t find any practising doctor in the UK who will dispute it.

There are stats that show this and a lot of research has been done on it.. Rather than just come out with a knee-jerk reaction saying it’s not true try finding out the facts for yourself and check out the links for more info:

Dr Iain Frame, Director of Research at Diabetes UK, said: “Diabetes is one of the biggest health challenges facing the UK today with £1million an hour already being spent by the NHS on the condition. While considerable effort is invested in diabetes research we need to examine diabetes in South Asian people living in the UK in more detail.

“It is astonishing that South Asian people in the UK are up to six times more likely to have Type 2 diabetes compared to the general population and tend to have poorer diabetes management"

‘Experts have already noticed that people of south Asian origin are more likely to become overweight and develop Type 2 diabetes when living in western countries. However, even though being overweight increases the risk of diabetes, the six-fold increase in risk in south Asian people could not be fully explained just by this.’

One of the ways the body deals with fat is to burn it in the skeletal muscles, and the Glasgow researchers found key differences between the muscles of south Asians and Europeans. In particular, the expression of genes key to fat metabolism was lower in the muscles of south Asians - which would mean that their ability to process fat was impaired.

In turn, this would increase the risk of “insulin resistance”, a factor in the development of type II diabetes.

Dr Jason Gill, who led the study, said: "Our results suggest that the ability of south Asians’ muscles to use fat as a fuel is lower than in Europeans.

“In other words, if a south Asian man and a European man were walking alongside each other at the same speed, the south Asian man’s muscles would be burning less fat and this may contribute to a greater risk of developing diabetes.”

However, he said that regular exercise was known to improve this ability, and suggested this might be a key way for people of south Asian descent to lower their diabetes risk.

Dr Victoria King, from Diabetes UK, said: "We have known for some time that south Asian people have up to a six-fold increase in the risk of developing Type 2 diabetes.

“Although we think this could be due to increased body fat and this fat being more likely to be stored around the abdomen, these factors can only explain part of the increased risk we see.”

She added: “This new insight could provide the basis for future studies looking at lifestyle, or drug interventions to enhance the uptake and burning of fat in muscles, reducing the risk of type II diabetes in this high risk group.”

Source: South Asian diabetes risk clues found, UK study says - BBC News


Diabetes experts have warned of an alarming trend amongst South Asian children, who are developing type 2 diabetes at a much earlier stage than previous generations. Type 2 diabetes was previously referred to as adult-onset diabetes, and is often caused by being overweight or obese . However, children as young as ten are now being diagnosed with the condition.

The concerns were raised by Professor Kamlesh Khunti of the University of Leicester. He reportedly commented: " Type 2 diabetes was not something that teenagers and children would get. It was something that adults in their 30s and 40s would be diagnosed with. But now children, particularly from the South Asian population, are getting type 2 diabetes at a younger and younger age. This is a shocking trend that is a time-bomb waiting to explode."

Khunti fears that a type 2 epidemic could be building up amongst young Asian people. Hundreds under the age of 30 have type 2 diabetes, Khunti feared: “What we are seeing in South Asian children is down to a combination of genes, poor diet and lifestyle.”

Source: Young South Asian people at particular risk of diabetes

So a mixture of genetics, diet and lifestyle..

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Word

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Also, I doubt any GP would actually prescribe desi diet :hehe: They’d tell you to run from it!

Even if you manage to stay slim while over-eating desi food, your health will still deteriorate due to the high amounts of salt, oil, spices and simply an unbalanced, not-so-nutritious diet.

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Deebs I think NomiCA meant the bit about food being the problem was not true... but then again thats for NomiCA to explain.

Anyway I still think it's lifestyle rather than anything to do with Asians being any weaker or whatever... muscle development here in the Glasgow theory seems to be based on a genetic problem... but I dont buy that for one minute...

No way are Asian genes weaker or stronger... the muscle development differences are most likely caused by changes in lifestyle. Physical conditioning ussually helps overcome most muscle problems. :)

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Theres nothing wrong with Desi diet in my opinion, our forebears managed fine in Pakistan and India... it's most likely to be lifestyle and maybe climate in my opinion. :)

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They are actually caused by genetics.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/2004/06/24/512617.html

‘‘DNA testing showed why: The boy has a genetic mutation that boosts muscle growth’’

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It's not just South asians, Arabs, Africans and Carribeans have higher rates of diabetes then the natives. My personal opinion - way too much 'refined' sugar in foods here and our bodies have not adapted. Back home the sugars are more 'raw' and less processed, so more healthy.

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Wow so I’m a freak then… Wow! Scientific evidence fo it at last… :eek:

I bow to you smart folks for this :d6c:

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Those are just news articles........"A study says bla bla bla bla"...... if there is any 'verifieable research'..then i will believe it...
even if it is......its about Brits....not all desis.... there might be something unique to brit desi lifestyle...

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''A study'' means tests or research conducted in an area or in case of genetics it means PROOF.

Which is more that can be said for myths and folk tales.

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hey its from WHO beeches!

http://www.who.int/diabetes/actionnow/en/mapdiabprev.pdf