Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
i know one thing for sure i could never abandon my daughter at the tender age of 15, you might as well kill her cause if you dont someone surely will.
The reason girls turn bad is because from the moment they are born they are not valued, they are considered to be burdened specially in our society, as they mature they feel the lack of love and respect, and that in turn makes them do such vile things. If you respect and cherish your children from the moment you lay your eyes on them, than im sure you will never hear such sad stories.
Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
Some parents are very very protective. They deny their children the slightest things and assume they are protecting their children from the commuinty. **This never works. **The child does not understand and becomes rebellious, doing what s/hes told not to do, and once this habit of doing what ur told not to do starts, it extends to everything...drugs, sex, crime... Children are like a spring, if you stress it in, it will try to bounce back, but if you leave it, it will stay the way it was.
Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
Eerr, no to the first paragraph, and the second paragraph I would say you can never predict how kids will turn out, sometimes if you've done nothing wrong, there are such things as behavioural genes which will contribute. Just sounds like a whacked out family.
Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
My god she smokes a bit of weed and gets home late...just like a lot of girls her age...
That brother of hers that tried to kill her is probably doing the exact thing that she does lol...
But anyway bringing up any child is difficult but abandoning them is not a solution and certainly not killing them...15 is an age where most kids get up to most of their mischief...so learn to understand your kids rather than shunning the fact that they face peer pressure and desire to do things you feel are unacceptable...
Clearly mum and her daughter have a problem cos she obviously doesnt want to be at home and sees the drug dealers as friends...so work through the problem...Kids arent born bad they become bad...And its upon the parent to help her and be a parent not a murder...
Hope they lock this poor excuse for a parent up and never let her out...
Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
Miss Kiran said that her brother then took a spoon from the kitchen and forced her dental brace out with it, making her mouth bleed.
Khalid is then accused of getting a curry spoon, a rolling pin, a tin-opener and a knife.
His sister told the court that he hit her with the spoon a number of times and twice with the rolling pin, once so hard on her back that it made her scream.
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You call that a beating? Im not saying it was right, but only once he hit her hard enough to make her scream.
If you're going to admonish a beating, atleast have the balls to do it properly.
Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
zapp zip your mouth.
By the way i really didnt mean to kill the child i was just stressing a point...and yes behaviour factor is always there but you can tame a child with love and respect.
munza than what made her do it. i think its a lack of trust and respect...if you tell your child constantly that they are no good, than what do you expect in return.
Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
what makes a child (the girl was a child at 15) what they become, is the home environment to a large extent.
there must be something lacking at home that she had to turn to drugs and bad company at that young age. a one-off due to peer pressure is one thing - it becoming a way of life surely indicates that something's amiss at home.
if a child gets the love, attention, and care that he/she needs and deserves, you wouldn't have a story such as this.
Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
yes no denying the fact that you are entittled to your views, but when it comes to condoning violence we should all speak up. How would you like to be beaten up by some one twice your strength.
Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
True, violence is bad..
But women dope smoking drug dealers who dont need to do it, would be pretty thick to understand normal words. I think the family should have just told the police what she was up to and got her arrested and locked up.
Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
roadrunner... ofcrouse your surroundings do matter a lot.. but parents can definaely change that for a child...
roadrunner parents these days forget they will be asked first before the child....... if they raised him/her well or not..... making babies is easy but people forget raising a child is the most toughest and noble job on earth. shapping someone's life.... i am not looking at material being i am talking about immaterial here...
parents should make them good muslims because we are all working towards akhiraaa..
Manzil teri Qabaaar haaai..... Everytime this line passes by my thoughts... i literally shiver....
Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
You cannot make someone this or that. You can try and guide them to this or that and that's all. You dont seem to believe me when I say that behavioural genes play a part in determining how the child turned out. In that case you probably dont believe in DNA or any other scientific discovery, though it for sure 100% exists as surely as the earth is round.
Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
Roadrunner...
You mention that it is the parents role to proetct nad guide their kids...and that is exactly where mum failed...
The girl is 15...mum is supposed to show some understanding and support not to try and get her killed...we all misbehave at that age...fortunately we dont have poor excuses for parents as this poor girl does...
Re: Derby: MUM TOLD SON TO KILL HIS SISTER, JURY HEARS
If she wanted to kill her, she'd have done so. I dont believe she intended this even if she had some drugged out idiot child. The mum might have failed, and she might not have is my point. You seem to judgemental of her failure and apportion the blame to her, when it's not neccessarily her fault. The 15 year old just didnt listen to her, and she said some things when she lost her head, which happens to a lot of people. Again, two people dont react the same for 2 reasons. One is childhood, the other is GENETICS - so it's not all the mother's fault in this, that's just ignorance.