thats why I want Bush gone back to his Crawford Ranch on permanent vacation, Cheney retire to some undisclosed location and Rumsfeld and Ashcroft laid off.
Ok, lets see.
Night 1: Bill Clinton - Masterpiece
Night 2: Barak Obama - Outstanding
Night 3: John Edwards - Polished
Night 4: John Kerry - ?
No where to go but down.
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Ok, lets see.
Night 1: Bill Clinton - Masterpiece
Night 2: Barak Obama - Outstanding
Night 3: John Edwards - Polished
Night 4: John Kerry - ?
No where to go but down.
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Yarr, Barak should be No . 1 because Clinton came into this speech with so much fame and charisma behind him whereas Barack was a total stranger to every one and yet he was able to gain so much attention after his speech. I mea,n honestly he is the only politician in this convention so far (of course with Clinton an exception) who was able to develop an instant connection with the people based on his speech style. I had never heard of his name before and paid no attention when he came for speech but after couple of minutes into his speech, I knew he is special. Of course, it is not wise to predict some one’s political career based on one speech, but I can see a lot of potential in him. He reminds me of 1988 democratic convention when a relatively unknown Governor from Arkansas, named Bill Clinton was chosen for a keynote speech. Bill made an excellent use of this opportunity and delivered one of his best speeches. Rest is history.
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Ok, lets see.
Night 1: Bill Clinton - Masterpiece
Night 2: Barak Obama - Outstanding
Night 3: John Edwards - Polished
Night 4: John Kerry - ?
No where to go but down.
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well - yesterday he made his grand entrance with "No Surrender" theme song so i think he will be well prepared by future vp and his staff.....
john kerry 30 minutes into his speech...so far so good....
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john kerry 30 minutes into his speech...so far so good....
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He was ok.. No where close to Clinton,Obama or Edwards. Use of world "Hope is on the way" sounded so gay and was copied from John Edwards. Could not he come out somthing better.
It was nice to see that Teresa was not in Ketchup dress. But then Alexanda wore Ketchup.
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He was ok.. No where close to Clinton,Obama or Edwards. Use of world "Hope is on the way" sounded so gay and was copied from John Edwards. Could not he come out somthing better.
It was nice to see that Teresa was not in Ketchup dress. But then Alexanda wore Ketchup.
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come on ...he was better than edwards....
f&b kerry's was "help is on the way"
i thought it was pretty good. and besides, at least he can string words together into coherent sentences.
yes, it wasn't as dynamic as sharpton's or as interesting as clinton's. but it was better than edwards' and definitely uplifting in a way that the country needed.
Bring it on Bush.
"I'm John Kerry, and I'm reporting for duty."
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his speech was pretty strong and before he arrived on stage his friends Max Cleland and James Rassman laid out an image of a soldier that they have known since his days in Vietnam and Kerry basically set the same theme that he was a soldier for US and still is a fighter and better commander-in-chief. he mentioned his position in specifics on taxes, healthcare, education and energy dependance issues. i thought he hit the nail quite well . towards the end he told Bush to take a chill pill and move away from negative campainging :D
Bush is gonna kick his ass.
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No he ain't.
By the way, did anyone hear Sharpton? And then the "journalists"' comments on Sharpton? John Stewart's coverage of that was great.
one can only hope 5abi. I don’t think it will happen as long as the Bush underground network is alive. He’ll go whine to his daddy and win this election as well.
On a scale of 1 to 10 - i give an 8.5 to Kerry’s speech - Strong, passionate - effective, patriotic, hopeful, appealing to the center. Probably the best speech of his career - and he definitely delivered. Kerry projected an image of a strong - viable candidate for commander-in-chief - and he pumped some serious animation into what critics perceive as a dull candidate with a dreary delivery - People who once didn’t know who or what kind of person Kerry was (especially those in swing states) now more than likely have many of their questions answered - and they probably realize he has more than enough strength and passion to succeed Bush.
Okay - i love Bob Shrum - i have all the respect in the world for him - and i think he’s the best speechwriter alive - and a great political operative.
But Bob Shrum working closely with John Kerry scares me - i think a Massachusetts liberal like Ted Kennedy can always pull off a Shrum speech - I don’t think Kerry can consistently - and i hope Shrum doesn’t accept a job as White House Communications Director - tho i find it hard to imagine it not being offered if Kerry wins - I love the way Shrum writes - and once in a while it can be a great thing for Kerry - Just not too often.
Kerry is improving as a speaker - Obama and Clinton were pretty much untouchable - He and Edwards were both pretty good i think - not outstanding - but not bad - i liked that he had a decent amount of substance to his speech for a campaign speech - it wasn’t “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing,” as so many campaign speeches by candidates from all parties are - he talked a little bit about his ideas - and also directed everyone to where they could find a lot more information - when he mentioned where to find his detailed plans and ideas on his web sites.
i think he did what he needed to do in his acceptance speech. It was a well-written speech - with solid delivery - that both energized the base and got the attention of a lot of moderates!! - A lot of people went from anti-Bush to pro-Kerry - which was the best he could hope for.
Overall, a resounding success for the DNC! :soldier:
Snorpf, he said, awakening bleary eyed. Is it over? Did anything really happen?
Very good analysis talha…..i agree with you. John Kerry did deliver last night and I cud see a good statesman inside him. Overall, all political pundits across the country unanimously agreed that he preformed much better than expected. The Overall grade for his speech at all major news channels is A.
What makes me comfortable with John Kerry is his foreign policy experience as well as his ability to think out of the box for most of the times. USA is not a one single country anymore. The elections in USA effect the whole world and we need a President who has a good understanding of sensitivities involved in foreign policy. From the very first day John Kerry is determined that he will restore American pride and respect across the globe. It shows that at least he is aware of how low people think of USA outside America. In essence, last night, his determined style, controlled aggression and a convincing tone will certainly be a big plus for democrats in coming elections.
The only thing that disappointed me was his reluctance of mentioning the idea of starting a dialogue between civilizations. He did mention how will he curb AQ militarily but I also expected him to lift himself above the normal masses and to state the urgency of engaging different groups into a political dialogue to find a permanent solution of the terrorism problem. I have been following John Kerry’s campaign for last 8 months or so and I know that he does understand the urgency of a political solution to the terrorism problems, However, the fact that he decided to remain silent about it indicates to me that he will be no different ‘philosophically’ than his predecessors in terms of handling most of the problems Muslims are facing today (Kashmiris, Palestines, Chechens).
Kerry was ok. No where near the class of Clinton (expected) and Obama (unexpected). Edwards was "Hope is on its way". Kerry's was "Help is on its way". Perhaps I am the only one who thinks that the Dems should have come up with one unified slogan, atleast during this convention. I agree that Kerry's sounded quite inane, especially after Edward's.
Kerry had some interesting things to say, but his take on global economics is quite scary. He looks like an ultra-protectionist. If he gets elected, hopefully saner minds will prevail.
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However, the fact that he decided to remain silent about it indicates to me that he will be no different ‘philosophically’ than his predecessors in terms of handling most of the problems Muslims are facing today (Kashmiris, Palestines, Chechens).
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yes exactly - he won't put up illogical theme of campagin of solving world problems - remember when Clinton was campagining for his second-term, he mentioned about resolving Kashmir issue? what happened?
there you go Faisal - Kerry is nowhere near the class of Clinton because he don't want to be - most of the people are resembling Edwards to Clinton which ain't good - i don't want both of them to be the prototype of Clinton.
as for unified slogan - perhaps you should pay more attentionn to Strong At Home, Respected In The World
I was talking more about good oratory skills and connecting with your audience. If someone doesn't have it, its nothing to be proud of. :)
By the way, polls released today by CNN show no bounce for Kerry after the convention. Infact, both sides have hardened their positions. There are only 5% undecided anyway, so I am not sure what all the hooplah about "Convention Bounce" is all about. Republican convention should be the same.
Polls? Kerry doesn't take anything for granted.....you should have known that by now.......